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[goldstone77]

Hey guys, just a quick update regarding Ryzen:

It seems like with the Fall Creators Update, we no longer need the Ryzen Balanced Plan. I just upgraded to FCU with a Ryzen 7 1700X, and I am getting better benchmark scores with the balanced plan vs the ryzen balanced plan.

Also, on the normal balanced plan, I'm not getting any core parking whatsoever.

That's great news! I'm happy Ryzen is steadily improving! We need the competition!

 

[-Fran-]

Ok, I have to post this link, since it never even crossed my mind any OEM would do it:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rog-gl702zc-gc098t-amd-rx-580-4gb-gddr5-17.3-fhd-ips-freesync-amd-ryzen-5-1600-gaming-laptop-lt-24l-as.html

THG team, I think we need benchies for that lappy ASAP! xD

Cheers!

 

[goldstone77]

Ok, I have to post this link, since it never even crossed my mind any OEM would do it:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rog-gl702zc-gc098t-amd-rx-580-4gb-gddr5-17.3-fhd-ips-freesync-amd-ryzen-5-1600-gaming-laptop-lt-24l-as.html

THG team, I think we need benchies for that lappy ASAP! xD

Cheers!

WOW! If this continues we might be able to see AMD making a come back from the abyss!

Specification:
- Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (Base 3.2GHz / Boost 3.60GHz with 16M Cache)
- 6 Core / 12 thread Ryzen 5 1600 Processor which in cinebench multi core scores 1151 compared to 737 score of 7700HQ, nearly double the performance for less money
- AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB graphics card supporting VR scoring 13846 in 3D Mark 11 P-score compared to GTX 1060 scoring 11500

 

[imrazor]

Also available in Ryzen 7 flavor...
https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-Strix-GL702ZC/

..but apparently this guy doesn't like it because it doesn't have enough I/O for video editors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPUccVeV4I0

EDIT: Sorry, it wasn't Dave2D but some other reviewer was really cheesed by the lack of Thunderbolt.

 

[goldstone77]

Thunderbolt is more of a Mac thing isn't it?

 

[imrazor]

It's becoming more common in mid- to high-end laptops. Mostly used for external GPUs and high speed I/O (storage and docks, I think.)

 

[rgd1101]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-sale-black-friday/
black friday sale

 

[TechyInAZ]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-sale-black-friday/
black friday sale

$319 for an 1800X!!!! I wonder if i should be kicking myself....

 

[goldstone77]

^^^WOW! But with 12nm coming out February... hmmm... Still nice price drops!

 

[-Fran-]

https://techreport.com/review/32877/amd-ryzen-5-2500u-apu-reviewed

APU review. It's a decent all-rounder as expected. The HP laptop comes with touch screen as well, which is cool and might be a plus. Oh, and the key pad.

Cheers!

 

[jaymc]

Good article, interesting read. Up to 640 Compute Units What ? I guess that's the TDP well blown.

I wonder how many they can get into 95w though...

 

[-Fran-]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12084/epyc-benchmarks-by-intel-our-analysis-

Intel's EPYC numbers deep dive analysis. There are interesting bits, just like with all things marketing.

Cheers!

 

[dgothi]

I notice Asus just release a new bios - "PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 3203 Update to AGESA 1071 for new upcoming processors" on website. I am wondering will I able to upgrade new Ryzen 2 CPU on same Asus Prime Pro X370?

 

[TechyInAZ]

I notice Asus just release a new bios - "PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 3203 Update to AGESA 1071 for new upcoming processors" on website. I am wondering will I able to upgrade new Ryzen 2 CPU on same Asus Prime Pro X370?

You should, AMD said the AM4 socket will be used until 2020.

 

[jdwii]

Guys wanting to get a Ryzen build you can get a 1700 for just 270$ and the 1800X for 320$ and yes at that price its competitive with coffee-lake basically the prices are at the level i claimed they should be at except maybe Ryzen 3 which should be 20-30$ cheaper or not even exist at all and the 1400 and 1500X should have been Ryzen 3 CPUs

 

[-Fran-]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-streaming-encoding-coffee-lake-ryzen,5326.html

So AMD wasn't lying they were the best choice for mainstream if you were considering streaming. And the new i5 8600K, if you want to stream decently (you can still go 720p and move up in streaming performance), is not an option. That is one interesting finding.

Cheers!

 

[goldstone77]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-streaming-encoding-coffee-lake-ryzen,5326.html

So AMD wasn't lying they were the best choice for mainstream if you were considering streaming. And the new i5 8600K, if you want to stream decently (you can still go 720p and move up in streaming performance), is not an option. That is one interesting finding.

Cheers!

Yeah, I posted reviews showing the 1800X streaming better the than 6900K when it came out. It's still holding the torch! Glad to see this since that was one of AMD's big selling points.

 

[nikoli707]

Guys wanting to get a Ryzen build you can get a 1700 for just 270$ and the 1800X for 320$ and yes at that price its competitive with coffee-lake basically the prices are at the level i claimed they should be at except maybe Ryzen 3 which should be 20-30$ cheaper or not even exist at all and the 1400 and 1500X should have been Ryzen 3 CPUs

yea the 1700 is the best all around processor right now. just a simple 3.8ghz oc on a basic board should offer plenty of performance for most users, and the cpu/mobo/ram combo is very affordable. i went the the 8700k because adobe primier/after effects/lightroom heavily favor intel, but i was very tempted by ryzen. im hoping/rooting ryzen+ gains can get to 4.2-4.3ghz.

 

[goldstone77]

Guys wanting to get a Ryzen build you can get a 1700 for just 270$ and the 1800X for 320$ and yes at that price its competitive with coffee-lake basically the prices are at the level i claimed they should be at except maybe Ryzen 3 which should be 20-30$ cheaper or not even exist at all and the 1400 and 1500X should have been Ryzen 3 CPUs

yea the 1700 is the best all around processor right now. just a simple 3.8ghz oc on a basic board should offer plenty of performance for most users, and the cpu/mobo/ram combo is very affordable. i went the the 8700k because adobe primier/after effects/lightroom heavily favor intel, but i was very tempted by ryzen. im hoping/rooting ryzen+ gains can get to 4.2-4.3ghz.

Yeah, it would be nice to see ~500Mhz improvement. I think it's a realistic expectation.

 

[goldstone77]

First X470 Motherboard in the Wild: Gigabyte Gaming 7 WiFi X470 | CES 2018
By Steve Burke Published January 07, 2018 at 10:00 pm
https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3196-first-amd-x470-motherboard-gigabyte-gaming-7-wifi-specs

GamersNexus secured an early exclusive with the new Gigabyte Gaming 7 motherboard at CES 2018, equipped with what one could confidently assume is an AMD X470 chipset. Given information from AMD on launch timelines, it would also be reasonable to assume that the new motherboards can be expected for roughly April of this year, alongside AMD’s Ryzen CPU refresh. This is all information learned from AMD’s public data. As for the Gigabyte Gaming 7 motherboard, the first thing we noticed is that it has real heatsinks on the VRMs, and that it’s actually running what appears to be a higher-end configuration for what we would assume is the new Ryzen launch.

Starting with the heatsink, Gigabyte has taken pride in listening to media and community concerns about VRM heatsinks, and has now added an actual finstack atop its 10-phase Vcore VRM. To give an idea, we saw significant performance improvement on the EVGA X299 DARK motherboard with just the finned heatsinks, not even using the built-in fans. It’s upwards of 20 degrees Celsius improvement over the fat blocks, in some cases, since the blocks don’t provide any surface area.

The VRM is a doubled 5-phase, using International Rectifier 3599 Vcore drivers, with 3553 MOSFETs. An IR 35201 is used for the PWM, and the board is comprised of a 6-layer PCB. A doubling scheme is used to create an effective 10-phase. An additional 2 phases are allocated to memory. These MOSFETs are cooled with a direct-touch copper heatpipe of 6mm in diameter, which contacts via thin thermal pad for maximum heat transfer potential. The aluminum finstack takes up the rest of the heatspreading process, and Gigabyte still managed to get some visual elements in there.

Other key board components include an external clock gen, which is really useful for dialing-in overclocks to smaller intervals than whole 1x jumps. Additional overclocking features include a dual-BIOS, useful for recovery, and targeted support for up to 4000MHz memory, from what GN has found about AMD’s new CPUs. It’s unclear on how well that target will work out, but that’s what we’re expecting now. The board has two BIOS dipswitches present for dual-BIOS and single- or dual-BIOS mode.

For PCIe slots, the board has three PCIe x16-length slots, which are wired for x16 and x8 for the first two, with the third wired for x4, based on the back-side of the PCB. A couple of PCIe x1 slots are also present. Ancillary features include fan headers present all over the board perimeter, which is welcomed, and an integrated IO shield. The rear IO panel includes a CMOS clear switch and power button, both of which are further welcomed, and some digital RGB LEDs.

Ancillary features include an integrated rear IO shield, a rear IO CMOS clear and power button, and digital RGB LEDs in the IO shroud. A 2x2 Wireless card is also included. Given the presence of the AM4 socket and AMD’s event at CES for Ryzen’s refresh, we can assume this is X470. Release is targeted at roughly April, based on AMD’s schedule. We think this board will be in the $250 range, +/- a couple bucks.

Gigabyte also had a new mining motherboard present, fitted with the B250 chipset and LGA1151 socket. The mining motherboard, as expected, has 12 total PCIe slots (1 x16, 11 x1) with two MOLEX 4-pin power headers. Gigabyte also intends to include a 3-way power splitter for up to three PSUs powering the system.

 

[goldstone77]

Official: AMD Ryzen 2nd-gen Info, Ryzen Desktop APUs, Ryzen 3 Mobile & Vega Mobile dGPU
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Jan 7, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w29oF_Spoc&feature=youtu.be
[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w29oF_Spoc&feature=youtu.be"][/video]

 

[goldstone77]

AMD's Pre-CES Haul: 12nm Ryzen CPUs, 7nm GPUs, 2000 Series Proccessors, X470 Chipset
by Paul Alcorn January 7, 2018 at 9:00 PM
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-12nm-cpu-7nm-gpu-x400-motherboards,36260.html

LAS VEGAS, NV -- AMD announced new second-generation 12nm Ryzen processors, Desktop APU lineup, a 7nm GPU, and the expansion of the Ryzen mobile family.

AMD's busy 2018 comes on the heels of an incredibly disruptive 2017 that marked the return of competition to the desktop PC processor market. The company rolled through an amazing number of launches in 2017, including: the Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5, and Ryzen 3 series; Ryzen Pro; Ryzen Mobile; the Radeon RX Vega and 500 series; the new Xbox One X SoC; EPYC single socket and dual socket platforms; and Radeon Instinct. AMD may not match that intense cadence of 2018 product releases, but it has plenty of new items on the menu in 2018.

CES 2018: AMD Announces 2nd Generation Ryzen CPUs for April, Threadripper for 2H 2018
Subject: Processors | January 8, 2018 - 12:00 AM | Ryan Shrout
https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/CES-2018-AMD-Announces-2nd-Generation-Ryzen-CPUs-April-Threadripper-2H-2018

Details are expectantly short, but what we know is that these parts will move from a 14nm process technology to 12nm from GlobalFoundries. AMD is calling the design “Zen+” and this is NOT Zen 2 – that is coming next year. You should expect higher clocks for Ryzen 2000-series processors and improvements to Precision Boost that will enable more consistent and gradual clock speed shifts in workloads of interesting like gaming.

AMD Tech Day at CES: 2018 Roadmap Revealed, with Ryzen APUs, Zen+ on 12nm, Vega on 7nm
by Ian Cutress on January 8, 2018 12:01 AM EST
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12233/amd-tech-day-at-ces-2018-roadmap-revealed-with-ryzen-apus-zen-on-12nm-vega-on-7nm

 

[-Fran-]

Interesting tidbit is they actually moved some of the improvements in IMC from Naples to Ryzen+ (yeah, no idea how to call it). So, besides any potential uplifts in speed will be also alongside memory and latency improvements. I don't think they'll be disruptive, but improvements are always welcome.

So, April it is.

Cheers!

 

[tristerin]

Didn't know where else to post this but I am tickled pink by my Ryzen 7 1700. Got it for $250 shipped on black Friday, couldn't stomach the GPU market volatility so I refused to upgrade that part (ASUS B350 prime, 8gb DDR 2133mhz, 750w PSU, 500gb 850 EVO SSD, AIO cooler) - and that CPU is just smashing games paired with an R7 260X. Now I cant say I am running AAA brand new titles but in the games I play with my IPS 2k monitor with freesync on the highest settings allowable - BF4, Fortnite, H1Z1/Just Survive I am getting 60-90+ FPS.
On the other hand my PC (above is my wifes) is an FX 8350 crossfired with two HD 7850 2gb (1 of these is a little better than the 260X) on a 1080p monitor and I cant reach her FPS (and I have OC'd my two GPU's)

Very happy with the Ryzen line for gaming. Cant wait to pair it with a 1080 Ti

 

[dgothi]

I did download and update bios 3803 AGESA 1000a on ASUS Prime Pro X370. I see this new AGESA 1000a finally solved with Memory RAM set as DOCP (Intel's XMP) it is running stable at DDR4-3000 as DOCP enabled since a few days. Before AGESA 1000a update, I unable to set DOCP @ DDR4-3000...so, I have to customize set at 2666... been stuck with it for almost 11 months lol. I am so glad AGESA 1000a is solution with Memory RAM. I have Corsair DDR4-3000 8GB x 2 = 16GB