AMD Ryzen or Intel 8th Gen?

[cwhlr]

Howdy, I am about to purchase a new pre-built gaming PC from HP. I have narrowed it down to two options. One used Intel 8th gen, and the other AMD Ryzen. They are both $600, so I wanted some input on the pros and cons of each. Note that both include Windows 10 and I will be adding a SSD for the OS on either system.

HP 690-0200 w/ AMD:

AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor 3.6GHz
AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5
8GB DDR4-2666 RAM
1TB 7,200RPM Hard Drive
400 Watt PSU

HP 790-0031 w/ Intel:

Intel Core i5-8400 Processor 2.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB GDDR5
8GB DDR4-2666 RAM
1TB 7,200RPM Hard Drive
400 Watt PSU

 

[Barty1884]

Assuming a gaming rig?

If you have to opt for either, personally I'd opt for the Intel-based system.

While the RX580 is a stronger GPU (vs the 1050TI), I'd be inclined to get a solid foundation in the i5-8400 personally.

The 1050TI is a solid medium-high 1080p card today, and that system (probably with a replacement PSU) will support a few rounds of GPU upgrades over time.

While the 2400G is a solid value proposition, it's main benefit (IMO) is being an APU. Pairing with a discreet GPU, it's benefit is negated.

They each have pros/cons, but personally the i5 + 1050TI makes more sense.

 

[cwhlr]

Thanks for the response Barty1884. So you’re saying out of the box the Ryzen setup will be faster but down the line upgrading will put the Intel on top? I probably won’t be upgrading until a few years anyways, so maybe the more powerful setup currently will be the better short term investment?

 

[Barty1884]

The GPU is stronger in the Ryzen system, yes. But the CPU (portion of the APU) is weaker.

Really, there's arguments for each. Doing a bit more research though; outside of titles that favor Nvidia heavily.... the AMD system should win out more often than not (down to the stronger GPU, despite the slightly weaker CPU).

The AMD build should perform mostly like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIIXIT1PB_8

Although you're probably getting the 4GB 580, not the 8GB variant - so some of those titles will need settings turned down (as they're using >4GB VRAM).

For the i5-8400 + 1050TI you should be looking at something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cdLT-DZufg

So, while both are completely playable and generally speaking >60FPS..... the AMD platform looks like it should net stronger performance in most titles.

 

[shabbo]

Go with AMD ryzen. It's is a no-brainer.

The RX580 GPU is not only far better performance but will only increase in performance with future enhancements and as developers optimize their titles. the 1050Ti will not, in fact Nvidia might as well nerf it like they do every time they release a new lineup.

On the CPU front the 2400G is ample to power through anything you throw at it. Especially at 8GB RAM. It also has far more value if you were to resell in on ebay in the future compared to the intel 8400.

8400 has only 6 threads while the 2400 has 8 threads making it a a better choice for desktop apps. AMD also supports higher memory speeds upto 3GHz if you upgrade to 16GB or more upi'll benefit with the AMD.

The AM4 platform will also support newer 7nm CPUs from AMD within the next 10 months giving you an upgrade path and better long-term value. Cant say much about Intel because their 10nm release date is late 2019

 

[akamateau]

Howdy, I am about to purchase a new pre-built gaming PC from HP. I have narrowed it down to two options. One used Intel 8th gen, and the other AMD Ryzen. They are both $600, so I wanted some input on the pros and cons of each. Note that both include Windows 10 and I will be adding a SSD for the OS on either system.

HP 690-0200 w/ AMD:

AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor 3.6GHz
AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5
8GB DDR4-2666 RAM
1TB 7,200RPM Hard Drive
400 Watt PSU

HP 790-0031 w/ Intel:

Intel Core i5-8400 Processor 2.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB GDDR5
8GB DDR4-2666 RAM
1TB 7,200RPM Hard Drive
400 Watt PSU

It really doesn't matter what you purchase. Your use is not geared to any particular performance or need, you just want to find validation for your purchase. Without knowing what you want to do with this you can not get a relevant answer. Basically what you are buying is a good business pc.

Why get a Ryzen 5 2400G? That is an APU with Vega cores on-die. Theoretically there is no need for the RX-580 especially given the low graphic demand that you have for the pc. If you are intent on purchasing an RX580 AIB then feed it with a Ryzen 7 2800x for about $170 more. The Ryzen 5 2400g lists for about $160.00 on NewEgg and the Ryzen 7 2800x $330.00.. Or get a slightly cheaper Ryzen 7. The Ryzen 7 2800x at $330 is a no-brainer.

Flip a coin or buy whatever is cheaper. You are not buying a workstation by any means, or a competitive "gaming rig" based on the graphics selection. You obviously have no need for video editing or any math or engineering. For just a few dollars more you could get 8gb ram for the RX 580, and likely the same for the 1050.

NewEgg is selling the AMD machine you are spec'ing without the RX 580 for $499.00
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102485&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Desktop+PC-_-N82E16883102485&gclid=CjwKCAjw-dXaBRAEEiwAbwCi5mg_btr258o5bz_ET3H_QPDj7_AB1ij52mPYm4NAqcUg5Unjm1EbNRoC6SkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

And Staples has a slightly better for $679.00 2TB drive.
https://www.staples.com/cyberpowerpc-gma490-gamer-master-desktop-computer/product_24310232?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:24310232&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=24310232&KPID=24310232&cvosrc=pla.dotcom-coop-google.Computers&cvo_crid=281238867997&cvo_campaign=1470549973&gclid=CjwKCAjw-dXaBRAEEiwAbwCi5g17VDTcNyedZT9irzZ2k3vsKyLMX680UvBd0FetnPOudcpoz5kVCRoCEkgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&akamai-feo=off

Likely you could build one cheaper.