News AMD Ryzen Z2 lineup leaked — Z2 Extreme rumored to have 12 RDNA 3.5 CUs, Z2 and Z2G using older architectures also in the works

[Admin]

Supposed leaks indicate AMD will equip its entire Ryzen Z2 family with 12 Compute Unit GPUs. Multiple variants will reportedly exist using Strix Point, Hawk Point, and even Rembrandt.

AMD Ryzen Z2 lineup leaked — Z2 Extreme rumored to have 12 RDNA 3.5 CUs, Z2 and Z2G using older architectures also in the works : Read more

 

[thestryker]

It seems like this is more of a realignment of the expected stack than anything particularly advancing.

AMD and Intel both tend to require far too much CPU to get the top end graphics for handheld type devices. The fact that the Steam Deck can perform decently despite the anemic CPU compared to the Zen 4 APUs says everything to me. It'll be really interesting to see where LNL in handheld form ends up performance wise.

In a perfect world I'd love to see 6 power optimized cores with the equivalent graphics to 16CU RDNA 3.5 with extra cache for the GPU or wider memory bus if the power consumption can be managed. On the Intel side of things depending on the efficiency curve of Skymont it might be possible to do 8 Skymont cores and use the extra space for more graphics. I imagine it's too small of a market for the time being, but with Intel's tiles it sure seems like it's something they could do without the typical full silicon run costs.

 

[salgado18]

It seems like this is more of a realignment of the expected stack than anything particularly advancing.

AMD and Intel both tend to require far too much CPU to get the top end graphics for handheld type devices. The fact that the Steam Deck can perform decently despite the anemic CPU compared to the Zen 4 APUs says everything to me. It'll be really interesting to see where LNL in handheld form ends up performance wise.

In a perfect world I'd love to see 6 power optimized cores with the equivalent graphics to 16CU RDNA 3.5 with extra cache for the GPU or wider memory bus if the power consumption can be managed. On the Intel side of things depending on the efficiency curve of Skymont it might be possible to do 8 Skymont cores and use the extra space for more graphics. I imagine it's too small of a market for the time being, but with Intel's tiles it sure seems like it's something they could do without the typical full silicon run costs.

I agree, there's no need for many powerful cores when games will at most run at 60 fps on a 1080p screen. Lower the CPU, so the GPU can run faster.

But a mixed stack of similar configurations using different architectures? They will all work similarly, I hope the cost difference is good enough to justify.

 

[Notton]

This new product stack is AMD admitting the Z1, with 2+4 cores and 4CUs, was a monumentally dumb product.

Although it's interesting they aren't going with a 10CU or 8CU chips from partially defective dies. I guess the yields for Strix Point are fantastic?

 

[watzupken]

I sense there’s not going to be any meaningful gain in performance with the Z2 series. The number of CUs is no different from Z1 Extreme. I really can’t tell if RDNA 3 and 3.5 makes any difference when it comes to performance. Most gains are due to higher clock speed and faster memory used, rather than due to improvements from RDNA 3.5. So what Valve said about the value of incremental improvements yearly makes more sense now. To me, Valve should introduce a version with greater than 16GB of faster memory as an option. I am on the fence about getting a Steam deck now because it’s clear the lack of memory limits the console to mostly lighter games.

 

[subspruce]

This new product stack is AMD admitting the Z1, with 2+4 cores and 4CUs, was a monumentally dumb product.

Although it's interesting they aren't going with a 10CU or 8CU chips from partially defective dies. I guess the yields for Strix Point are fantastic?

"yields are fantastic" "built on 3nm" 😀