AMD Selling, Leasing Back Austin Campus to Raise Cash

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GabZDK

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Who would say a console would bring so much hope to the PC market??
PS4, you need to succeed so that AMD can bring on full badass mode, that is an order
 

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With the upcoming Haswell from Intel looking to be a much more modest step for them, AMD has an opportunity to build up some sales come this summer and fall, and hopefully that will put them in place to do more spending on innovations and improvements on their forthcoming offerings.
 

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[citation][nom]DRosencraft[/nom]With the upcoming Haswell from Intel looking to be a much more modest step for them, AMD has an opportunity to build up some sales come this summer and fall, and hopefully that will put them in place to do more spending on innovations and improvements on their forthcoming offerings.[/citation]

Haswell is a modest step???

It's going to have at least 10% better IPC, considerably higher in HT use. IB already rapes anything AMD has out. Hell Core 2 from 2006 still has better IPC than anything AMD has now.

On top of that Haswell will be very energy efficient, and absolutely decimate AMD's Piledriver derivatives in performance/watt. It's so far ahead of anything AMD has, the relative positions of the companies in that sector will remain - Intel getting people who want quality, performance and power efficiency, AMD competing for those who can't afford the best, don't need the best, and can get by with "good enough" since nothing they require would benefit from anything better.

Jaguar will be their opportunity, not vastly inferior higher end chips, which offer no real competition except for the fact Intel wants higher margins, and lets AMD price lower and suffer low margins.

Jaguar is better than anything has in that market.

Let's also keep in mind, it sounds so lofty that they want to lower their investment in non-core assets, etc... The reason is they're piss-poor. They're burning cash, and their credit rating is below junk. They aren't doing this because they want to, they're doing it because they have to. They're going to lose a massive amount of money in the first quarter, and a lot in the second. Let's hope once Jaguar starts hitting its stride they'll stop the burn, and start turning things around, but at the earliest that's the third quarter, and could be later as well.

Paying 10.4M a year in rent sucks, but it beats going out of business. 164M buys them at least a quarter, hopefully more if their cost cutting is working, to get things turned around with Jaguar, and their new video cards. Plus, their new software initiative that they say only works on Richland and Jaguar could make a difference - no one cares about technology except for what it can do, and AMD finally launching applications that take advantage of hardware is a big next step that could give AMD based solutions an edge, despite the disadvantage in CPU technology. It's about time they leveraged their GPU.
 

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[citation][nom]ta152h[/nom]Haswell is a modest step??? It's going to have at least 10% better IPC, considerably higher in HT use. IB already rapes anything AMD has out. [/citation]

They said that about ivy bridge in comparison with sandy bridge, the performance gains of ivy bridge were negligible at best.
 

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[citation][nom]Marco925[/nom]They said that about ivy bridge in comparison with sandy bridge, the performance gains of ivy bridge were negligible at best.[/citation]
Umm, who? That's news to me, as far as I know Ivy Bridge was never meant to provide a large jump in processor performance, nor was it ever expected to by legitimate sources. I think most informed enthusiasts basically knew what to expect from Ivy Bridge based on Penryn and Westmere before it.
 

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[citation][nom]Marco925[/nom]They said that about ivy bridge in comparison with sandy bridge, the performance gains of ivy bridge were negligible at best.[/citation]
No. It was around 10% faster with lower power consumption.
 

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AMD is improving IPC about 10% per year, where Intel is increasing 5% per year. At the current rate, in 5 years IPC for both intel and amd will be close to equal.

Overall, IPC is starting to matter less and less. As long as intel continues to keep 6+ core processors price prohibitive and exclusively for the professional market, AMD will win every time in multi-threaded arena. And considering that more and more developers are creating software that utilizes multithreading, single core IPC is becomming less important.

AMD wins in GPU, APU, and multi-threaded CPU to price markets.
Intel wins in IPC, workstation, and marketing. Ask anyone who intel is and they will tell you about those stupid blue-man commercials. Ask those same people about AMD and they will stare at you.
 

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This really tells us how weak financially is AMD.
They laid off, sold their factory and now their campus.

Sure, in the short term, they make some $$ that Rory Read willl undoubtly claims to be from his great market vision.
But in 15 years or so, it will have all been swallowed by the rent that they will still have to pay...

Outside smartphone and tablets, the interest of Haswell is not in the CPU but the integrated GPU that might be twice faster than IvyBridge.
The only benchmark in favor of AMD will vanish this summer...
 

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some people want amd to be down to prove that intel is better than amd, but if that company goes down surely intel will rape the prices of cpu's and nobody gonna be happy because of that :)
 

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AMD is shooting themselves in the foot with this but since we're on a serious credit crunch it's understandable why they are doing this just to survive.

I too hope AMD has few aces up their sleeves. PS4 is one of them.
 

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[citation][nom]jujuvivi[/nom]the interest of Haswell is not in the CPU but the integrated GPU that might be twice faster than IvyBridge.The only benchmark in favor of AMD will vanish this summer...[/citation]
Even Intel's GT3 IGP will only barely match AMD's Trinity IGPs from last year so AMD's APU refresh should put them ahead again in that department. Intel might catch up with AMD on the IGP front on a same-year-model basis with Broadwell next year if they go with another 2-3X performance leap.
 

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[citation][nom]Blessedman[/nom]I know I am going to get a lot of boo's but Apple sure could step in here and have it's own CPU house...[/citation]
NO
 

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[citation][nom]yhatz17[/nom]some people want amd to be down to prove that intel is better than amd, but if that company goes down surely intel will rape the prices of cpu's and nobody gonna be happy because of that[/citation]
too true, although intel is already raping the market price-wise
 

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Intel has competition. Starting next year ARM (calxeda, NV, Arm themselves, Qcom, Samsung etc all enter cpu's on your desktop, and 2015 they all enter your servers). Intel won't be facing a bankrupt AMD. A lot of the ARM Juggernaut has billions in the bank and no debt. Samsung says server chip in 2014 but we'll see.

Here's a quick rundown on a bunch entering servers and where they're heading:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/02/arm_server_future/
Not much of a jump to make things run on the desktop either for anyone. NV has Denver (desktop) & Boulder (server) coming 2014/2015. IF AMD goes bankrupt and I'm running NV, as the only discrete gpu maker, I'd block all Intel machines from using my cards once gaming isn't directx oriented :) Ruthless, but deadly. A Bill Gates/Steve Jobs kind of move. Of course that's assuming they get some real games on android by then. If we're all weaned off Directx and consoles sales suck this xmas and beyond it can be done. Imagine x86 with only Intel gpus. And then on the flip-side an android/chrome based PC running NV's latest gpus. I'm guessing game devs would follow the gpu power as nobody wants to be LESS creative.

The 164mil here for AMD won't do squat to stop another Billion loss this year. AMD will need more funding as they lost 1.18B last year, and have ~1B left. Consoles and Arm profits are 9months out at best. This is a challenging year for AMD and their credit is already junk bond status. That makes borrowing even more costly going forward. I really hope AMD gets bought soon and backed by Billions (IBM, Samsung, Qcom could all do this easily).
 

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Would be nice to see Samsung acquiring AMD CPU division...
 
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