News AMD Strix Halo Ryzen AI MAX 395+ laptop chip matches the desktop Ryzen 9 7950X in leaked benchmark — 16-core APU rumored to power Asus' upcoming RO...

[Admin]

A leaked 16-core Strix Halo APU is toe-to-toe versus the Ryzen 9 7950X, per Geekbench.

AMD Strix Halo Ryzen AI MAX 395+ laptop chip matches the desktop Ryzen 9 7950X in leaked benchmark — 16-core APU rumored to power Asus' upcoming RO... : Read more

 

[salgado18]

The sad thing about these big laptop CPUs is that all of them are paired with dedicated GPUs. Programmers and others who only need a fast CPU but little GPU have to pay extra for underused hardware.

 

[Notton]

For comparison, the 2023 model with i9-13900H+RTX4060 did 2600 single / 13400 multi in geekbench.
I think that model cost around $2100 usd

 

[usertests]

The CPU perf doesn't matter, it was obviously going to be around the 7950X, basically the same as Fire Range.

The GPU is the important part. I guess it's a win if it can match or exceed the 7600 XT. And efficiency matters since Strix Halo is for laptops first.

The sad thing about these big laptop CPUs is that all of them are paired with dedicated GPUs. Programmers and others who only need a fast CPU but little GPU have to pay extra for underused hardware.

I find it hard to believe there will be many Strix Halo devices paired with discrete GPUs. If you wanted a dGPU, you'd just get Fire Range which should be about the same CPU as Strix Halo (up to 16x Zen 5 using desktop chiplets) but cheaper. Too bad if that's often paired with dGPUs. We've seen Dragon Range (Zen 4 version) in mini PCs with no discrete.

 

[salgado18]

The CPU perf doesn't matter, it was obviously going to be around the 7950X, basically the same as Fire Range.

The GPU is the important part. I guess it's a win if it can match or exceed the 7600 XT. And efficiency matters since Strix Halo is for laptops first.

CPU performance always matters to someone, otherwise it wouldn't be news. But I believe you mean for gaming, in which case a 16 core CPU is a waste of resources.

I find it hard to believe there will be many Strix Halo devices paired with discrete GPUs. If you wanted a dGPU, you'd just get Fire Range which should be about the same CPU as Strix Halo (up to 16x Zen 5 using desktop chiplets) but cheaper. Too bad if that's often paired with dGPUs. We've seen Dragon Range (Zen 4 version) in mini PCs with no discrete.

I have never seen (in my country or in news, at least) notebooks with 35W+ TDP not paired with a GPU. All notebooks using integrated graphics go for slim designs, using low-wattage processors. Which, in my view, is a shame.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

"At least in short bursts"
"In Geekbench"

So the performance in the real world as compared to the 7950X is very much in question. So clickbaity...

 

[Elusive Ruse]

The 9950X has trouble matching the 7950X I will believe it when I see it taken to task by reviewers.

 

[usertests]

CPU performance always matters to someone, otherwise it wouldn't be news. But I believe you mean for gaming, in which case a 16 core CPU is a waste of resources.

Definitely in the case of gaming. But in general a modern 16-core is overkill for a lot of use cases. GPU performance is the key for most use cases of Strix Halo. And Fire Range should achieve the same if not better CPU performance, without the big iGPU.

Because it's using desktop chiplets, there's a question of if we'll see X3D variants sometime in the future.

I have never seen (in my country or in news, at least) notebooks with 35W+ TDP not paired with a GPU. All notebooks using integrated graphics go for slim designs, using low-wattage processors. Which, in my view, is a shame.

Strix Halo is using a new, massive "FP11" BGA package, 5.5% larger than the package used by Dragon/Fire Range. It could also take up more laptop board area by being surrounded by memory packages, since it is quad-channel (256-bit memory bus).

https://www.techpowerup.com/324271/...-bga-package-the-size-of-an-lga1700-processor

Strix Halo will be the first case in which a flagship chip is not paired with dGPUs, since it should have performance similar to a mobile 4070/5060 (I'm guessing here).

Any OEM that wants to pair an AMD 16-core with a discrete (Nvidia) GPU should use Fire Range instead. Maybe there's some reason for a Strix Halo + dGPU combo but it would be an oddity.

There may not be many choices anyway, since this is an experimental new product for AMD. Example, an ASUS lineup leak:
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-ro...orce-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5080-gpus-listed-online

Out of 28 high-end SKUs, 1 is Strix Halo with no dGPU, the other 27 are using Intel/AMD APUs and Nvidia dGPUs.

 

[shady28]

I've mostly stayed out of the discussions on who has the worst cpu 'naming convention', but I have to say "Strix Halo Ryzen AI MAX 395+ " has to be one of the worst cpu names in existence.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

I've mostly stayed out of the discussions on who has the worst cpu 'naming convention', but I have to say "Strix Halo Ryzen AI MAX 395+ " has to be one of the worst cpu names in existence.

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[heffeque]

CPU performance always matters to someone, otherwise it wouldn't be news. But I believe you mean for gaming, in which case a 16 core CPU is a waste of resources.

I have never seen (in my country or in news, at least) notebooks with 35W+ TDP not paired with a GPU. All notebooks using integrated graphics go for slim designs, using low-wattage processors. Which, in my view, is a shame.

You're basically are confusing Strix Halo (55-120 W) with Strix Point (15-54 W). They are 2 different segments.

If you want the best laptop CPU performance but with a very basic iGPU, you will have Fire Range (Dragon Range's successor). Both Dragon Range and Fire Range are laptop CPU to use with a powerful discrete GPU.

 

[Mama Changa]

The sad thing about these big laptop CPUs is that all of them are paired with dedicated GPUs. Programmers and others who only need a fast CPU but little GPU have to pay extra for underused hardware.

Huh, that's why they released Dragon Range which is basically the mobile version of the desktop cpu's and requires a dGPU. Fire Range is Dragon Range's successor and is what you seem to require.