News AMD Unveils Threadripper 3960X and 3970X, Ryzen 9 3950X Details, and Athlon 3000G

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I can't wait to see some third party benchmarks and testing. I am interested in the 3950X mainly in the cooling requirements. I also want to see a more fair power assessment than one from a company. Who knows what exact setup they used to get power readings.

New board for TR3, sucks for anyone on TR2 wanting to just CPU upgrade. I think its a good idea for AMD. Design the socket, chipset and CPU around each other for optimal performance gains.

Price also went up, logical since they sell well. AMD might as well make as much as they can.

But they will have to compete with CL-X which has the price cut in half and until we see reviews I would assume CL-X will still have a clock speed advantage.

Should be an interesting couple of weeks.
 
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Is it bad I am most interested in the 3000g, even though it shouldn't be that interesting since it is just a zen+ dual core with vega 3.

But, since it is zen+ and unlocked, so I would love to see how far it will overclock. I want to see 4+ghz.
 
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"That's a notable claim because the -9900K has twice the amount of cores"

I think you meant the 3950X here instead of the 9900K. Small mistake, I know, but I got a little bit confused reading that part..
 
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AMD provided a few benchmarks that show the Threadripper processors handily dispatching the $1,999 Core i9-9980XE in a series of heavily-threaded benchmarks,
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The formerly $1,999 i9-9980XE. It sells for well below that now.
Newegg -$1090
At $1000, the i9-10980XE will be priced quite competitively vs these new Threadripper CPU's.
 
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NightHawkRMX said:
Is it bad I am most interested in the 3000g, even though it shouldn't be that interesting since it is just a zen+ dual core with vega 3.

But, since it is zen+ and unlocked, so I would love to see how far it will overclock. I want to see 4+ghz.
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Zero use for 2c/4t systems for use with any games whatsoever....

I read this is a die-shrink of the 200G, with a 100 MHz boost in clock speed...

There might be a market for some bargain basement, 'we need a bunch of complete $299 systems with 4 GB of RAM and $50 CPUs ASAP', but, I'm not sure that's a market I'd be searching for, as it sounds more like WalMart's realm/area of specialty...(or maybe Dell with a complete system at $199)
 
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Actually, that CPU would make a perfectly fine little HTPC. You don't need more than 2/4 for a box that's going to do nothing more than serve up music and movies from some small form factor brick.
 
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NightHawkRMX said:
Well, to be fair Intel will only give you 2 generations on a platform normally, so this is not bad
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Yea. I said I think its a good thing. I don't think trying to keep CPUs and old boards compatible is the best way to go. Give it 2 or 3 gens then move on to reap overall system improvements. Could you imagine if people were able to throw a Ryzne 3 CPU into a 990FX board? I mean moneys worth on the board but thats what some people actually want.

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Actually, that CPU would make a perfectly fine little HTPC. You don't need more than 2/4 for a box that's going to do nothing more than serve up music and movies from some small form factor brick.
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I would have to test it TBH. My HTPC has a, be it older, quad core AMD CPU (one of the old Athlon 4 core mini boards, and the CPU is a big drag. I also had to recently upgrade the GPU and went nVidia because none of the low profile AMD GPUs supported x265 10bit HEVC encoded videos. But a cheap GT 1030 does so yay.
 
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Paul has a correction to make:

However, the 7nm process enables incredible density and does afford power advantages, which AMD says equates to more than twice the performance-per-watt of Intel's Core i9-9900K and -9920X (measured at the wall). AMD also says a Ryzen 9 3950X system pulls 28W less than the Core i9-9900K. That's a notable claim because the -9900K has twice the number of cores. We'll be sure to put those power measurements to the test in our review.
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Should be the 3950X has twice the cores.
 
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If you're looking to cram an incredible amount of horsepower into a small form factor build, like a Plexbox or DIY NAS, AMD is also rolling out a new Eco-Mode feature. This feature allows the processor to downshift from its rated TDP to the next lower 'grade,' meaning you can drop a 105W processor to 65W, or a 65W processor to 45W. AMD is making this feature available on all Ryzen models, and after the requisite firmware update, you can make the adjustments in either the BIOS or Ryzen Master.
AMD claims the 65W mode on the 3950X offers 77% of the chip's full performance, but at a 44% power savings that results in a 7C reduction in temperatures. The easy-to-use feature should prove very handy for SFF enthusiasts, though making a few manual adjustments to the power thresholds would provide many of the same benefits.
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I wonder if this could be used to reduce cores in use AND raise max speed?
 
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Yea. I said I think its a good thing. I don't think trying to keep CPUs and old boards compatible is the best way to go. Give it 2 or 3 gens then move on to reap overall system improvements. Could you imagine if people were able to throw a Ryzne 3 CPU into a 990FX board? I mean moneys worth on the board but thats what some people actually want.



I would have to test it TBH. My HTPC has a, be it older, quad core AMD CPU (one of the old Athlon 4 core mini boards, and the CPU is a big drag. I also had to recently upgrade the GPU and went nVidia because none of the low profile AMD GPUs supported x265 10bit HEVC encoded videos. But a cheap GT 1030 does so yay.
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Yes, but that CPU has much better IPC and single core performance than that old FX quad core, and with the Vega graphics, if all you are doing is media, probably doesn't even NEED a graphics card at all.
 
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Yes, but that CPU has much better IPC and single core performance than that old FX quad core, and with the Vega graphics, if all you are doing is media, probably doesn't even NEED a graphics card at all.
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I think it is the Athlon 5150 which is Jaguar based cores. So its not FX based. That said I didn't look at Vega integrated graphics but I doubt it would support HEVC 10bit either since most low end GPUs don't.

But even with playing a Blu-Ray it hiccups sometimes. And typically when it does its because the CPU itself gets a bit clogged. I haven't looked more into it since I upgraded the GPU and to an SSD.
 
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jimmysmitty said:
I think it is the Athlon 5150 which is Jaguar based cores. So its not FX based. That said I didn't look at Vega integrated graphics but I doubt it would support HEVC 10bit either since most low end GPUs don't.
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It appears that it does. AMD APUs starting with Raven Ridge used AMD's new VCN codec, which apparently supports 10 bit HEVC decode. https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index10h2
 
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