AMD V Intel

[ryanmm]

Would the Ryzen 1600 or the Intel i5 7500 be a better option for gaming? I am looking at these two for my next build

 

[kaptainkuftic]

They're comparable in a lot of ways, http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7500-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3648vs3919. What's the rest of your build?

 

[ryanmm]

They're comparable in a lot of ways, http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7500-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3648vs3919. What's the rest of your build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cBbgcc

 

[Herc08]

EDIT: Just seen your components. You are trying to fit a budget. As a long time Intel supporter, Intel isn't a bad chip. However with Ryzen on the rise, it's cheaper and has a nice upgrade path. However, if your GPU fails, you will not be able to use your computer. As I stated, it depends what your budget is, and what you plan on doing in the future.

I expect this question to come up so much now. However, in this case, it truly depends on what you are trying to do and what type of games you are playing. It also depends on what your budget is. Ryzen 5 1600 paired with a B350 is pretty much the go to right now. It's cheap, effective, and gets the job done. However, even though they have more threads, trying to run all of the threads at once very fast isn't where AMD shines, at least for speed. However, most games do not use multiple threadded design.

Agian, at the end of the day, it depends on what you are wanting to do.

 

[ryanmm]

I expect this question to come up so much now. However, in this case, it truly depends on what you are trying to do and what type of games you are playing. It also depends on what your budget is. Ryzen 5 1600 paired with a B350 is pretty much the go to right now. It's cheap, effective, and gets the job done. However, even though they have more threads, trying to run all of the threads at once very fast isn't where AMD shines, at least for speed. However, most games do not use multiple threadded design.

Agian, at the end of the day, it depends on what you are wanting to do.

I want to be able to have a game open in the background and still be able to have chrome running smoothly. I also want to play games like H1Z1 and PUBG

 

[ryanmm]

EDIT: Just seen your components. You are trying to fit a budget. As a long time Intel supporter, Intel isn't a bad chip. However with Ryzen on the rise, it's cheaper and has a nice upgrade path. However, if your GPU fails, you will not be able to use your computer. As I stated, it depends what your budget is, and what you plan on doing in the future.

I expect this question to come up so much now. However, in this case, it truly depends on what you are trying to do and what type of games you are playing. It also depends on what your budget is. Ryzen 5 1600 paired with a B350 is pretty much the go to right now. It's cheap, effective, and gets the job done. However, even though they have more threads, trying to run all of the threads at once very fast isn't where AMD shines, at least for speed. However, most games do not use multiple threadded design.

Agian, at the end of the day, it depends on what you are wanting to do.

I plan to upgrade in the future, my gpu is running smoothly right now with no problems. I just want the best option since they are close in price

 

[madmatt30]

You'd want faster ram than that with ryzen , 2666mhz minimum - there's a fair drop off in general performance below that.

What are you running at the moment??

You're better off asking for advice when you're ready to buy , the ryzen 1500x & 1600 are easy better CPU's than an i5 7500 but they actually cost more money so they should be.

On a really tight budget the ryzen 1400 is well worth consideration still , single core performance is virtually the same as the i5 & the ryzen 1600 & you still have hyper threading.

You have ryzen 3 dropping in a couple of months , & a straight quad with the same IPC is likely to be $120-130 max - another option on a tight budget.

At this exact minute though ?
The ryzen 1600 is easily the best price to performance ratio CPU currently available by a fair stretch.

 

[ryanmm]

You'd want faster ram than that with ryzen , 2666mhz minimum - there's a fair drop off in general performance below that.

What are you running at the moment??

You're better off asking for advice when you're ready to buy , the ryzen 1500x & 1600 are easy better CPU's than an i5 7500 but they actually cost more money so they should be. I just want good performance and a easy upgrade path

On a really tight budget the ryzen 1400 is well worth consideration still , single core performance is virtually the same as the i5 & the ryzen 1600 & you still have hyper threading.

You have ryzen 3 dropping in a couple of months , & a straight quad with the same IPC is likely to be $120-130 max - another option on a tight budget.

At this exact minute though ?
The ryzen 1600 is easily the best price to performance ratio CPU currently available by a fair stretch.

My build right now is a Gtx 1050ti , Fx-6300, 8gb ddr3 ram. I just want something more powerful than this. I am only 15 with $1000 that I have saved, I just want something to run PUBG on good settings at a decent fps. I am open to cheap budget builds that can get me better performance than the fx-6300

 

[Herc08]

You'd want faster ram than that with ryzen , 2666mhz minimum - there's a fair drop off in general performance below that.

What are you running at the moment??

You're better off asking for advice when you're ready to buy , the ryzen 1500x & 1600 are easy better CPU's than an i5 7500 but they actually cost more money so they should be. I just want good performance and a easy upgrade path

On a really tight budget the ryzen 1400 is well worth consideration still , single core performance is virtually the same as the i5 & the ryzen 1600 & you still have hyper threading.

You have ryzen 3 dropping in a couple of months , & a straight quad with the same IPC is likely to be $120-130 max - another option on a tight budget.

At this exact minute though ?
The ryzen 1600 is easily the best price to performance ratio CPU currently available by a fair stretch.

My build right now is a Gtx 1050ti , Fx-6300, 8gb ddr3 ram. I just want something more powerful than this. I am only 15 with $1000 that I have saved, I just want something to run PUBG on good settings at a decent fps. I am open to cheap budget builds that can get me better performance than the fx-6300

First off congrats on saving 1000 at 15. I wasn't able to get my first grand at once until I was about 20. Any who, you have some good parts. You could consider going the FX-8350 route and getting additional 8GB of RAM. Use the remainder to upgrade maybe your GPU or monitor.

 

[ryanmm]

You'd want faster ram than that with ryzen , 2666mhz minimum - there's a fair drop off in general performance below that.

What are you running at the moment??

You're better off asking for advice when you're ready to buy , the ryzen 1500x & 1600 are easy better CPU's than an i5 7500 but they actually cost more money so they should be. I just want good performance and a easy upgrade path

On a really tight budget the ryzen 1400 is well worth consideration still , single core performance is virtually the same as the i5 & the ryzen 1600 & you still have hyper threading.

You have ryzen 3 dropping in a couple of months , & a straight quad with the same IPC is likely to be $120-130 max - another option on a tight budget.

At this exact minute though ?
The ryzen 1600 is easily the best price to performance ratio CPU currently available by a fair stretch.

My build right now is a Gtx 1050ti , Fx-6300, 8gb ddr3 ram. I just want something more powerful than this. I am only 15 with $1000 that I have saved, I just want something to run PUBG on good settings at a decent fps. I am open to cheap budget builds that can get me better performance than the fx-6300

First off congrats on saving 1000 at 15. I wasn't able to get my first grand at once until I was about 20. Any who, you have some good parts. You could consider going the FX-8350 route and getting additional 8GB of RAM. Use the remainder to upgrade maybe your GPU or monitor.

I have a good 75hz monitor right now. The Fx 8350 was an idea and then I remembered it had an am3+ socket so not room for improvement with that mobo. My 430psu wouldnt be able to handle a better gpu. My dad offered to pay $200 to help with my pc since we just moved and made money off of our house.

 

[Herc08]

Ok well the 8350 is still a chip to be considered. Of course you will need a better PSU. A 550w from Seasonic for $60 should do you just fine. Again, getting a 1070 shouldn't use more than 350watts...if that. If you are happy with your monitor, go with a RX 580 8GB, Ryzen 5, and 300mhz of RAM. Something like this. I know it's $200 from your max budget, but it has great upgrading paths. You could always back down to a Ryzen 5 1400, and upgrade from there. If that is too much, a RX 580 4GB could also do you just fine as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($280.98 @ Directron)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $779.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-06 15:10 EDT-0400

 

[Rakanyshu]

I would be looking at something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $588.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-06 16:01 EDT-0400

Keep your 1050ti and wait for vega you then can get something better for your money, unless you can return the 1050ti or sell it close to what you spent on it and get a 1060/1070, but i would wait on vega cards at this point.

what do you think about this?

 

[ryanmm]

I would be looking at something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $588.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-06 16:01 EDT-0400

Keep your 1050ti and wait for vega you then can get something better for your money, unless you can return the 1050ti or sell it close to what you spent on it and get a 1060/1070, but i would wait on vega cards at this point.

what do you think about this?

This seems up my alley, I would probably drop the ssd right now. Wouldnt the 1050ti bottleneck the 1600? I could really cut down on cost by going with a 1400. I am not sure though

 

[madmatt30]

My advice is stick with a ryzen 1600 , it has 2 extra cores , 4 extra threads & a better cooler than the 1400. - that is worth the extra $50 easily.

That'll future proof you for maybe 4 or 5 years.

I'd go with 16gb ram from the off , its only $40 more for double the ram - once again future proofing, no need to buy more in the future.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $403.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-06 17:17 EDT-0400

 

[ryanmm]

My advice is stick with a ryzen 1600 , it has 2 extra cores , 4 extra threads & a better cooler than the 1400. - that is worth the extra $50 easily.

That'll future proof you for maybe 4 or 5 years.

I'd go with 16gb ram from the off , its only $40 more for double the ram - once again future proofing, no need to buy more in the future.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $403.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-06 17:17 EDT-0400

I am on a $500ish budget

 

[madmatt30]

Are there no parts you can currently carry over , you mentioned a 430w PSU before for starters.
If it's decent quality it will be fine, the ryzen draws less power than your old 6300 .

My issue with the ryzen 1400 & 1500x is pricing.
They are well prices BUT the 1600 is a vastly better CPU for not much more money.vice versa ram - 16gb doesn't cost twice as much as 8gb .
It makes sense to buy it in the first place .

Do it right the first time you remove the need for future upgrades.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($213.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman - R1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $507.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-07 01:06 EDT-0400

 

[ryanmm]

Are there no parts you can currently carry over , you mentioned a 430w PSU before for starters.
If it's decent quality it will be fine, the ryzen draws less power than your old 6300 .

My issue with the ryzen 1400 & 1500x is pricing.
They are well prices BUT the 1600 is a vastly better CPU for not much more money.vice versa ram - 16gb doesn't cost twice as much as 8gb .
It makes sense to buy it in the first place .

Do it right the first time you remove the need for future upgrades.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($213.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman - R1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $507.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-07 01:06 EDT-0400

I have a TR2 psu, I heard those arent very good

 

[madmatt30]

They're not very good quality , however it's working with your current setup , it'll work with the new one.
Replace it when you look at a GPU upgrade in the future.

 

[madmatt30]

While Rakanyshu's option looks great it relies on $50 worth of rebates & there is no price on the ram.

In reality its close to $700.

 

[ryanmm]

Are there no parts you can currently carry over , you mentioned a 430w PSU before for starters.
If it's decent quality it will be fine, the ryzen draws less power than your old 6300 .

My issue with the ryzen 1400 & 1500x is pricing.
They are well prices BUT the 1600 is a vastly better CPU for not much more money.vice versa ram - 16gb doesn't cost twice as much as 8gb .
It makes sense to buy it in the first place .

Do it right the first time you remove the need for future upgrades.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($213.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman - R1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $507.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-07 01:06 EDT-0400

They're not very good quality , however it's working with your current setup , it'll work with the new one.
Replace it when you look at a GPU upgrade in the future.

I will probably just buy a new psu to save me from the hassle of upgrading that