AMD vs Intel gaming/rendering build

[NKR 8055]

Good Evening/day everyone
as the title suggests, im wondering which is better at this current moment?

here are the two builds within my budget of 10 000ZAR

AMD Ryzen 5 1400 4 Core Socket AM4 3.2GHz CPU Processor + Wraith Stealth Cooler - 229
ASUS PRIME X370-PRO AM4 - 229
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Gaming X 4GB Video Card - 249
707

fractal design edison m550W 80+ gold -109
G.Skill Value 8GB (1x 8GB) DDR4 2400MHz Memory -92
WD WD10EZEX 1TB Blue 3.5” 7200RPM - 75
276

983

OR

intel i5 7400 3.0 ghz- 249
ASUS PRIME Z270-AR - 229
MSI GTX 1050 Ti 4GB - 249
737

fractal design edison m550W 80+ gold -109
G.Skill Value 8GB (1x 8GB) DDR4 2400MHz Memory -92
WD WD10EZEX 1TB Blue 3.5” 7200RPM - 75
276

1013

please note
Although im from south africa, all prices are in AU$ because im ordering parts from there.
this rig wil be for mid gaming (GTA V and NFS)
im an Architectural student so rendering capabilities dont need to be of industry standard
the reason i have chosen these motherboards with non-unlocked processors is because i will be upgrading in future, and id rather have the motherboard be a "foundation for future builds as opposed to having "just enough for now"
ive never built a pc before so please forgive any noob mostakes so far , everything ive come with is my own research.

any and all opinions will be considered. thank you.

 

[SubaruWRX244]

I'd go for the first build. Nice upgrading available later to Ryzen 7! Aim for atleast the Ryzen 6 core parts if ya can...

 

[grmnlxndr]

Yes, go for the r5 1600 and downgrade the motherboard to a B350. The B350 is capable of overclocking the ryzen CPUs

 

[TJ Hooker]

You're definitely overspending on the motherboards, particularly the AMD one. If all you want to do is make sure you can overclock, you can get one for a lot cheaper (B350, as said above).

As an aside, all Ryzen CPUs are unlocked.

 

[madmatt30]

As said already , ryzen but drop the board to a cheaper b350 & get a 1500x (minimum) or better the 1600 in there.

 

[SubaruWRX244]

I personally wouldnt overclock on the B350. Its worth spending the money for a X370 . Youll get better numbers and less strain on the motherboard. X370 are very high end and would be great. B350 is lower end with less quality :/

 

[spdragoo]

Definitely a Ryzen 5 1400-based build over an i5-7400 build. The Ryzen 5 1400 beats the i5 just about everywhere (https://www.techspot.com/review/1386-amd-ryzen-5-1400/page6.html). As pointed out, however, you can OC it with a B350 motherboard. Unfortunately, while you could save another $80AUD with that motherboard change, it won't be enough to get a better GPU (at least non MSI's Gaming version of the GTX 1060). However, since those savings & the remaining margin over the i5 build gives you roughly another $100AUD to play with, I would strongly suggest moving up to a 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3000 kit for that build. Ryzen CPUs love faster RAM, & it'll help with rendering.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I personally wouldnt overclock on the B350. Its worth spending the money for a X370 . Youll get better numbers and less strain on the motherboard. X370 are very high end and would be great. B350 is lower end with less quality :/

Have any evidence to back this up? B350 vs X370 is just the chipset; it doesn't inherently say anything about VRM phase count, trace thickness, component quality, etc. Basically, X370 is for if you want to SLI (or need a few extra SATA/PCIe lanes). Given that a 'good' Ryzen overclock compared to a 'bad' one seems to typically only vary by a couple hundred MHz at most, I wouldn't spend $100 extra on a mobo that may get get you ~5% higher clock speed if you're lucky.

 

[madmatt30]

^ there is no evidence because it's not true.

Ryzen 1600 is easily done & the pro 4 is a very good board

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($295.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($118.98 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card ($239.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Fractal Design - Edison M 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $959.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-26 04:52 AEST+1000

 

[NKR 8055]

You're definitely overspending on the motherboards, particularly the AMD one. If all you want to do is make sure you can overclock, you can get one for a lot cheaper (B350, as said above).

As an aside, all Ryzen CPUs are unlocked.

what are the advantages of the motherboard ive chosen though? the reason why ive chosen the more expensive mobo is for the consideration of future upgrades (flagship am4 processor and maybe gtx 1070). BUT, im just a noob, and if you say B350 with all these factors considered, then B350 it will be. thank you for the response

 

[NKR 8055]

I personally wouldnt overclock on the B350. Its worth spending the money for a X370 . Youll get better numbers and less strain on the motherboard. X370 are very high end and would be great. B350 is lower end with less quality :/

Have any evidence to back this up? B350 vs X370 is just the chipset; it doesn't inherently say anything about VRM phase count, trace thickness, component quality, etc. Basically, X370 is for if you want to SLI (or need a few extra SATA/PCIe lanes). Given that a 'good' Ryzen overclock compared to a 'bad' one seems to typically only vary by a couple hundred MHz at most, I wouldn't spend $100 extra on a mobo that may get get you ~5% higher clock speed if you're lucky.

after reading about the 100$ difference i can gladly sacrifice the SLI capability of the Z370 as this seems to be the only major difference between the two chipsets?. With future upgrades in mind i think just a single gtx 1070 with a flagship AM4 processor with high freq memory will suit my needs just fine. Thank you sir!