AMD Vs Intel PC build

[Chillmasterkelly]

I am about to receive my student loan next week. My roommate and I am going to start building a new PC for myself. My budget is slightly less than his 2700 dollars he dropped on his beast of a pc. Regardless, he is claiming that AMD will rank better for my price range vs Intel for my build. I will have around 1200-1300 dollars, at most, maby 1500 if I sell my shitty Xbox 360. Anyways. I have checked quite a few benchmarks for various years, obviously 2013 being important, and I do not see AMD ranking anywhere close to Intel. If someone would take the time of day to compile me a system build for (1300 dollars) being the most realistic number I believe I will have available. I am looking for 100% performance for gaming. I am an avid mmo player etc. I do not care how shitty the tower looks. I do not want water cooling (yet). I will be adding it later on probably. I would also be interested if both builds are provided so my roommate and I can go over them both (AMD and Intel). Whoever does this will be my hero so Again:

If someone would take the time of day to compile me a system build for (1300 dollars) being the most realistic number I believe I will have available.

And

If both AMD and Intel builds could be provided.

Sincerely,

Sean Kelly

 

[Transmaniacon]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.92 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1228.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-10 09:41 EST-0500)

I think this would be a great option. The i5 overclocks well and the GTX770 will max everything at 1080P. I wouldn't bother with AMD unless you need to save money, it won't perform as well.

 

[envy14tpe]

need OS or monitor?

 

[rolli59]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2yVno

 

[VolvoDoto]

Sli ready power supply + ssd

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1253.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-10 10:06 EST-0500)

 

[VolvoDoto]

Non OC build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($252.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($539.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1346.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-10 10:13 EST-0500)

 

[Z1NONLY]

The reason an AMD system *could* beat an Intel system would be the money alocated for the graphics card.

AMD allows you to move more money to graphics-card power.

A stronger garphics card will make for better gaming. (If the AMD CPU can "keep up" with the stronger graphics card power.)

I would put half of the budget toward a single graphics card. (780 Ti ) Then see if the rest will cover an i5. If not, get the cheaper 8320 AMD CPU.

 

[envy14tpe]

The reason an AMD system *could* beat an Intel system would be the money alocated for the graphics card.

AMD allows you to move more money to graphics-card power.

A stronger garphics card will make for better gaming. (If the AMD CPU can "keep up" with the stronger graphics card.)

Totally agree. That's why I'd get a fx-8320 and drop more money into GPU.

 

[Transmaniacon]

Unless he is gaming at resolutions higher than 1080P, than the 770 is plenty of GPU.

 

[Z1NONLY]

Unless he is gaming at resolutions higher than 1080P, than the 770 is plenty of GPU.

That depends on how you define "plenty"

My 780 can't hold 60fps on Crysis 3 maxed out. It's "plenty" for me because I find 50FPS to be pretty smooth and playable. But some may want to stay pegged of the monitor's refresh rate.

Intel is generally a "better" CPU like water cooling is generally better than air cooling.

Spending more money on a better CPU and cuting back on your GPU makes about as much sense as getting a weaker GPU so you can have "better" water cooling. As long as your cooling is getting the job done there's no need to take money from the GPU and spend it on water cooling.

Likewise, as long as your CPU is getting the job done (Keeping up with your GPU) then it makes no sense to take money from your GPU budget to spend on a "better" CPU. (Not for a gaming rig anyway)

If you want to game, build the system around your GPU, not your CPU.

 

[Transmaniacon]

OP stated he is an avid MMO player, so I wouldn't expect him to need more than a 770.

 

[envy14tpe]

OP stated he is an avid MMO player, so I wouldn't expect him to need more than a 770.

Again. Totally agree with maxing out at 770 or 280x. 95% of popular games (Battlefield 4, FarCry3...) can be maxed out with 60fps @1080p with those GPUs.

 

[Aristotelian]

Why are you spending your student loan money on a computer for playing video games? You do realize that you will have to pay interest on that loan?

 

[Wisecracker]

We clearly have an issue of epeen between roommates

At $1,500 I recommend 3x23-inch monitors, an R9 290, an FX-8320 and a $110 Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P AM3+.

edit: I'd even jump in with an FX-6300 if necessary -- there are some great combos with 1866MHz RAMs

 

[envy14tpe]

Why are you spending your student loan money on a computer for playing video games? You do realize that you will have to pay interest on that loan?

Telling a college student how to spend their money is like asking why the sun comes up.

 

[Chillmasterkelly]

need OS or monitor?

I have accessories and OS

 

[Chillmasterkelly]

Unless he is gaming at resolutions higher than 1080P, than the 770 is plenty of GPU.

I will be playing at 1080p on this Asus monitor.

 

[rolli59]

Really the only question is will you be using any rendering editing programs in your school work? Then I would take my build linked above and substitute the I5 with I7 4770K.

 

[Chillmasterkelly]

Really the only question is will you be using any rendering editing programs in your school work? Then I would take my build linked above and substitute the I5 with I7 4770K.

Yes, I enjoy recording my games and I use sony vegas pro 2012 to edit and render them for my friends and I youtube channel.

 

[rolli59]

With I7, 240GB SSD, 2TB HDD, 750 watt Quality PSU which will run SLI later and GTX770 still under $1300 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2z2mV

 

[Z1NONLY]

With I7, 240GB SSD, 2TB HDD, 750 watt Quality PSU which will run SLI later and GTX770 still under $1300 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2z2mV

i7 $320
8320 $150

320-150= $170

Add$170 to the price of the 770 and you have money for a 3GB 780.

Video editing is one of the few things the FX8xxx can ballpark the i7 on.

So the question is, which combo games better?

FX8350+GTX780 or i7+GTX 770?

 

[C4RP3N0CT3M]

I am about to receive my student loan next week. My roommate and I am going to start building a new PC for myself. My budget is slightly less than his 2700 dollars he dropped on his beast of a pc. Regardless, he is claiming that AMD will rank better for my price range vs Intel for my build. I will have around 1200-1300 dollars, at most, maby 1500 if I sell my shitty Xbox 360. Anyways. I have checked quite a few benchmarks for various years, obviously 2013 being important, and I do not see AMD ranking anywhere close to Intel. If someone would take the time of day to compile me a system build for (1300 dollars) being the most realistic number I believe I will have available. I am looking for 100% performance for gaming. I am an avid mmo player etc. I do not care how shitty the tower looks. I do not want water cooling (yet). I will be adding it later on probably. I would also be interested if both builds are provided so my roommate and I can go over them both (AMD and Intel). Whoever does this will be my hero so Again:

If someone would take the time of day to compile me a system build for (1300 dollars) being the most realistic number I believe I will have available.

And

If both AMD and Intel builds could be provided.

Sincerely,

Sean Kelly

I am the roommate with a "2700.00" dollar PC (I get most of my stuff from eBay). The point I was trying to make is that AMD processors have a higher price per performance value. I have attached two examples from the PassMark that clearly show that AMD vs. Intel processors in the same price range show AMD being the clear winner. Also, I made a point that I think was repeated here that gaming PCs should be built around a better graphics card, as that would be the main bottleneck for gaming. Given the price constraints this seemed like the best option.


Here you can see that the FX-9370 and the i7-3770k are neck-and-neck, but look at the price difference.


Same in this one. The FX 9590 has the same PassMark score as the i7-4770K, but the price is better for the AMD (Only slightly I know, but this is a common trend).