amd x2 dual core am2 3600+ or Pentium D 820

[quantumsheep]

In fact it is an unannounced chip.

Where the bloody hell did ya hear that?

 

[qcmadness]

In fact it is an unannounced chip.

Where the bloody hell did ya hear that?

You cannot find it in AMD's official price list.
Originally it was sold in Hong Kong, but now I know that there will be no more x2 3600+ in Hong Kong.

 

[quantumsheep]

In fact it is an unannounced chip.

Where the bloody hell did ya hear that?

You cannot find it in AMD's official price list.
Originally it was sold in Hong Kong, but now I know that there will be no more x2 3600+ in Hong Kong.

That doesn't make it "unannouced" as you put it, it makes it out of production.

 

[epsilon84]

I think the X2 3600+ is mainly for OEMs. I think I've seen a few being sold over here in Australia though...

 

[weskurtz81]

He is in India, and he said the Core 2 cpu's are priced much higher there, so quoting the prices we pay for them, or will pay for them, does the OP no good. He is looking at the stated cpu's because they are in his price range, while the Core 2 cpu's he has stated are out of his price range.

wes

 

[Hegemon]

Unless I have missed it, no one here has posted the difference between the 3800+ X2 and the 3600+ X2. The 3600+ is a 65nm process, while the 3800+ was manufactured using the older 90nm process. I'd definitely go with the 3600+ X2 if I could. Just my $0.02.

 

[gOJDO]

Buy an 90nm X2 3600+ 2GHz 2x256kB L2. It is faster than Pentium D 820!

 

[ajfink]

Buy an 90nm X2 3600+ 2GHz 2x256kB L2. It is faster than Pentium D 820!

I'd say the 65nm version if possible.

 

[MrCommunistGen]

I think the X2 3600+ is mainly for OEMs. I think I've seen a few being sold over here in Australia though...

Wasn't it initially a S939 part? I thought I heard something about it being released over a year ago on S939.
Edit: I just did some reading and I guess not...
-mcg

 

[ajfink]

Unless I have missed it, no one here has posted the difference between the 3800+ X2 and the 3600+ X2. The 3600+ is a 65nm process, while the 3800+ was manufactured using the older 90nm process. I'd definitely go with the 3600+ X2 if I could. Just my $0.02.

Considering the problems 65 nm has at both clocking / memory dividing due to odd multpliers / latency this is a bad recommendation.

A 65 nm 3800+ process for example, will on average perform about 100 model numbers down, a 4800+ 65 nm processor, for example is yielding on average the same rough performance as a 4600+ 90 nm processor.

The better deal for OCing and all around performance is the 3800+ 90 nm... avoid 65 nm for another 2 quarters if you can.

Also, AMD does indeed make a 90 nm 3600+ which will likley nudge out the 3600+ 65 nm processor in terms of performance.

There are a handful of reviews out on the 65 nm process not meeting expectations:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2889
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2893
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_athlon_64_4800_65-nm_preview/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/cpu-memory/review/2007/01/18/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-5000-EE-65nm-/p1
(woohoo 3.0 GHz limit on a 5000+, less than 90 nm.... )


Techreport and Lost Circuits have also done reviews...

Jack

I don't know about the 90nm 3600 outperforming the 65nm version. The 65nm version has double the cache and 100 fewer Mhz. Head to head benchmarks would probably be needed to get a good idea of how that affects it. I'm also not sure how overclocking is for both of them, but 90nm is pretty proven and it seems that the 65nm versions might just be the lowest performing 65nm Brisbane chips being sold off, so they may not do well at all.

 

[gOJDO]

Buy an 90nm X2 3600+ 2GHz 2x256kB L2. It is faster than Pentium D 820!

I'd say the 65nm version if possible.
The 90nm 3600+ is faster than the 65nm 3600+. Also I don't belive that he can find a 65nm 3600+.

 

[shijo]

I have ended up with amd x2 dual core am2 3600+ and asus m2npv-mx
nvidia 6150 motherboard.I have both windows 2000 and windows xp installed
and the graphic applications (3D MAX)run smooth in xp rather than 2000.Regardings games Brothers in arms runs niece in good resolutions,also san andreas but not a big deal with Nfs Most Wanted-the resolution has to be kept at a minimum ,below 800*600.However i am happy with the system perfomance as a whole.I am not a gaming guy though.I just want to express my gratitude to all persons who efforts helped me in this thread.THIS IS A GREAT FORUM :roll:

 

[weskurtz81]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010340343+50001028+1050717007&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=343

I know you post was a while ago gojdo but, just thought I would post that the cpu was actually available in the etail channel. Of course, supply is better than it was on the 20th....

wes