News AMD X870 motherboards listed overseas start at $350 — premium X870E models may retail close to $800

[Admin]

Hardware leaker @momomo_us reveals the prices of several X870 motherboards from Asus and Gigabyte.

AMD X870 motherboards listed overseas start at $350 — premium X870E models may retail close to $800 : Read more

 

[mangaTom]

With global recession and a very stale reception of the 9000 series, I don't understand the logic of board makers jacking up the prices of these boards. You could buy a relatively cheap motherboard for am5 now. All of this just for usb4 and and wifi 7? Nope. Also isn't x870 just an up tiered b650e? Now I'd pay premium prices for a b650e class motherboard if I want to get one. Nope. Finally b840, a literally worse than a620 board. I know I love to clown on intel because of their practices but amd is almost just as scummy and bad.

 

[Notton]

All of this just for usb4 and and wifi 7

Don't buy it then, it's not for you.

USB4 signal requires better (more expensive) circuit traces for the higher frequencies, just like PCIe5.0 and DDR5.
WiFi7 cards are straight up more expensive than WiFi6 or 6E.

If you don't need that stuff, you don't even need an X670.
AMD R7 CPUs haven't require over-designed VRMs on X-series chipset mobos since 3000 series.
A mid-range B650 with a not-crap VRM design has more than enough robustness for an 7800X3D or future 9800X3D.

 

[RCJ]

"Some countries slapping VAT as high as 20% on hardware". Oh please, I wish it was that low where I live.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

The problem I see is that as TH pointed out a few months ago, AMD has now extended Socket AM5 until 2027, so we're now effectively in the middle of AM5's life.

Ryzen 9000 isn't that impressive over previous generations, existing boards are no performance slouches and support Ryzen 9000 and future CPUs, and PCIe 6 is on the horizon. What's the incentive for people to drop upwards of the better part of $800 on a X870E motherboard compared to waiting for next year's?

 

[LabRat 891]

At this rate, I'll still be on X570 with a 5800x3d as 2030 rolls around.

Suddenly, "AM4ever" isn't so jovial...

 

[Makaveli]

I wanted to go AM5 800 series chipset when I upgrade but they are going to jack the prices on those to the sky.

So looks like I may be going to ASUS Prime X670E-PRO WIFI

 

[NickyB]

Completely not worth it. Too much for too little. Looks like my X670-P board will be here for a while.

 

[Hotrod2go]

The problem I see is that as TH pointed out a few months ago, AMD has now extended Socket AM5 until 2027, so we're now effectively in the middle of AM5's life.

Ryzen 9000 isn't that impressive over previous generations, existing boards are no performance slouches and support Ryzen 9000 and future CPUs, and PCIe 6 is on the horizon. What's the incentive for people to drop upwards of the better part of $800 on a X870E motherboard compared to waiting for next year's?

What good is PCIe 6 ? even PCIe 5 is useless except in niche storage scenario. There are not even PCIe 5 gpu cards yet. Zen 5 is impressive with energy efficiency at a given clock speed, that's not progress is it? & lets not mention the faster level 1,2 & 3 cache speeds will we? also the Microsoft shenanigans affecting early reviews.

 

[Dementoss]

What's the incentive for people to drop upwards of the better part of $800 on a X870E motherboard compared to waiting for next year's?

Do you really think, the kind of people who spend that much on motherboards, are actually bothered?

I've been a member of a computer forum, here in the UK for many years, that has a member marketplace, where it is not unusual to see high-end kit, only months old, offered for sale due to further upgrading.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

Ryzen 9000 isn't that impressive over previous generations

Depends what you are replacing. It’s pretty pointless upgrading by one generation unless there is a huge change, 10% is unlikely to be seen.
Replacing a 5900x.. maybe. 3900x, that’s a different story, the performance jump is huge.

It is incredible that people treat these marvels of engineering in such a dismissive way. Coordinating the signals being switched by billions of transistors to get a result is not a trivial task, manufacturing the chips with components that are less than 10nm is mind boggling.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

Completely not worth it. Too much for too little. Looks like my X670-P board will be here for a while.

Completely agree, wrt upgrade the 2 added features are only worth it if you have a compelling use case.
If you are buying a new rig then it comes down to price and availability for the equivalent 800/600 motherboards. I chose X670e for the pc upgrade… mainly because I was choosing between the MSI tomahawk and the MSI gaming plus WiFi. Gaming plus WiFi has more backplate USB sockets, that was the clincher. The remaining specs were very similar.

 

[Elusive Ruse]

At this rate, I'll still be on X570 with a 5800x3d as 2030 rolls around.

Suddenly, "AM4ever" isn't so jovial...

Why? Is there a specific reason you need to upgrade to an X870 board?

 

[das_stig]

my Asus Prime X470-Pro + AMD Ryzen 7-5800X3D is more than capable of playing anything I through at it and expect that to be the case awhile, why spend £1000+ for limited gains, save the money until AM6 and then maybe review decision.

 

[TheHerald]

my Asus Prime X470-Pro + AMD Ryzen 7-5800X3D is more than capable of playing anything I through at it and expect that to be the case awhile, why spend £1000+ for limited gains, save the money until AM6 and then maybe review decision.

Obviously a 9950x isn't a gaming first chip. But asking why pay more is silly. Someone could ask you the same, his 5600 that cost less than half of your 5800x 3d plays everything just fine, why did you spend that much?

 

[DonDizzurp]

Why does the article compare pricing between X870 boards and X670e boards?

The X870-F replaces the B650E-F, not the X670E-F

Which means these prices are absolutely ridiculous. Charging X-E level prices for a B-E level board simply because of a name change.

X870E = X670E with USB4 and WiFi7
X870 = B650E with USB4 and WiFi7

 

[-Fran-]

Too bad the Asus ProArt is out of stock everywhere... That's the only current X670E with proper connectivity and USB4. It's way more expensive than the entry level ones in the refresh though.

Interestingly enough, for the one I was looking at to buy: Asus ROG Strix X670E-F, the new model is actually cheaper than the outgoing one (it was listed for £400 everywhere), so for my specific use case, I'm on the positive side, LOL.

Regards.

 

[das_stig]

Obviously a 9950x isn't a gaming first chip. But asking why pay more is silly. Someone could ask you the same, his 5600 that cost less than half of your 5800x 3d plays everything just fine, why did you spend that much?

Because at the time, 5800x has proven to be one of the best chips the app I use works with and balanced well with mobo/memory and I can't afford a ripper.

 

[Makaveli]

Depends what you are replacing. It’s pretty pointless upgrading by one generation unless there is a huge change, 10% is unlikely to be seen.
Replacing a 5900x.. maybe. 3900x, that’s a different story, the performance jump is huge.

It is incredible that people treat these marvels of engineering in such a dismissive way. Coordinating the signals being switched by billions of transistors to get a result is not a trivial task, manufacturing the chips with components that are less than 10nm is mind boggling.

This!

i'm going Zen 3 to Zen 5 always skip a gen. Zero point going from Zen 4 to 5!

 

[2Be_or_Not2Be]

Obviously a 9950x isn't a gaming first chip. But asking why pay more is silly. Someone could ask you the same, his 5600 that cost less than half of your 5800x 3d plays everything just fine, why did you spend that much?

Because at the time, 5800x has proven to be one of the best chips the app I use works with and balanced well with mobo/memory and I can't afford a ripper.

I think you missed his point. He's saying that someone can always question your choice of paying x money for a setup by saying they paid less for their setup which does the same. So everyone's choice for their setup is their choice alone, and no need to claim a setup at this price is better.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

I think you missed his point. He's saying that someone can always question your choice of paying x money for a setup by saying they paid less for their setup which does the same. So everyone's choice for their setup is their choice alone, and no need to claim a setup at this price is better.

Wholly agree, if someone asks for advice feel free to offer, if someone has made a purchase they have decided what suits them, their use case and their wallet.

Saying, in a critical way, “why did you buy that?” Is asking a question that is no-one’s business but the purchaser.