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"Alisha's Addict" <alishas.dontspam.addict@blueyonder.co.getrid.uk> wrote in
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> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:07:01 GMT, "Soupladel"
> <soupladelspam@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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> >> "Soupladel" <soupladelspam@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >> > I am toying with the idea of buying the MSI K7n2 DELTA ILSR, I
currently
> >> am
> >> > running an XP 2400+ and want to know if i move everything across to
the
> >> new
> >> > motherboard, what ram could & dhould I use?
> >> >
> >> > I can get some tasty pc3200 and am wondering if these would work ok
with
> >> the
> >> > above CPU? I assume they would just not run to their full potential?
> >> >
> >> > Soupladel
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Get the PC3200, drop a small strand of wire here.
> >>
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/killbill-socket.jpg
> >> Run the 2400+ at 200x11. (Instead of 133x15) I have the Delta-L
running
> >> this way no problem.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >What is the max i could get the 2400+ running with PC3200 without that
wire
> >mod? and what exactly is the piece of wire performing?
>
> That really depends on :
>
> How good the chip is
> Your cooling setup and budget for that
> What stability you're willing to accept
> How good the board is
>
> When you overclock, it's a matter of what's going to fail first.
> Problems will hit in either the electronic signal domain (1's and 0's
> tripping up over each other). Should be ok there as the Ram is
> probably better than how far you can push the cpu.
>
> The other problem comes from heat and voltage. More speed = more heat
> (and more voltage needed). If your cooling can deal with the extra
> heat, you can get some daft speeds ... Think I saw something about a
> Duron 700 going at 1.3GHz ...
>
> However ... if you don't have the budget to get excellent cooling and
> it does take money, then your best bet at getting speed is to make
> sure things are optimised.
>
> My rig here is :
> XP2400+ with a Zalman flower cooler
> Comtemplating overclocking that but not expecting much. The Zalman
> cooler is built for quiet, not for extreme cooling. A Coolermaster
> cooler (cheapy one) fitted to a XP2000+ (it had problems) was barely
> capable of running that chip at rated speed.
> 512Mb (one stick) DDR3200 running as DDR2100. It's actually quicker
> like that than if it's going at 200/400.
> ATi Radeon 9700 Pro with Zalman passive cooler. It works but I
> wouldn't try overclocking it, again due to uncertanties over it's
> ability to get rid of the extra heat.
>
> My box is electrically capable of more but with the current cooling,
> it's not going to go much quicker. Especially as we move into summer
> where the ambient room temperature will go up by around 15 degrees C
> max ... I have plans for water cooling to enable quieter running and
> overclocking but not sure if I'll really notice the difference.
>
> For yours, I'd think about :
> Will you be happy with the uncertainty that comes with overclocking -
> will the machine be stable ?
> What's your budget ? Watercooling can overclock lots but it costs
> extra. My Zalman cost me £28 and a high performance cooler will cost
> similar.
> What's your noise tolerance ? Extra cooling usually means more noise
> Killer Qu - will you notice the extra speed ?
>
> More info see here - www.overclockers.com . There are other sites
> around - can anyone post with ideas for other good overclocking sites
> ?
>
> Last note - I got more real world performance boost when switching to
> the XP2400+ compared to the XP2000+. Cost was £50 (I think) which is
> more than a good air cooler but much cheaper than a water cooling kit.
> Performance boost was about 20-25%. (Seti times fell from 4.5hrs to
> 3.5hrs)
>
> Pete Lilleyman
> alishas.dontspam.addict@blueyonder.co.getrid.uk
> (please get rid of ".getrid" to reply direct)
> (don't get rid of the dontspam though ;-)
I am looking at geting more than the current 2GHz i have now from the 2400+
in my old KT7 mobo, although I am currently running with 1.3 Gb of PC133,
although this is running at only 100MHz!
Soupladel
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