News AMD Zen 4 Specs Leak: 16-Core Ryzen 9 7950X Allegedly Hits 5.7 GHz

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Maybe they just did found out that 5800x is useless in the portfolio and instead just release directly 5800x3d aka 5700x with higher power budget and 3d cache. That actually makes sense, because 4700x is much better choice than normal 4800x, same with 3700x vs 3800x...
 

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The Zen4 CPU that will really ring the bell in gaming will be the 3D-vcache versions. I expect there'll be more than one with Zen 4 as AMD knows how popular they are. They're selling all the 5800X3Ds they can make, and it's been that way since launch.
 

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" ...if you don't count Intel's whole hybrid antics..."

Intel's e-cores are running at higher clock rates than the cores in my NUC box, and likely at much lower power than the zen4 cores. Are they real cores or not?
 
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Intel's e-cores are running at higher clock rates than the cores in my NUC box, and likely at much lower power than the zen4 cores. Are they real cores or not?

They are real cores. And they are more power efficient than zen 3 (probably not zen 4) if you are running all of them. They don't scale down well because you can't run just one, you have to power an entire block of 4. Mostly they are area efficient, also read more efficient in compute per die area or dollar.

The problem with them is, we are putting so much compute power in every box that most computer use doesn't need the e-cores unless you're running a ridiculously parallel and long running task. Large compression/encoding/rendering tasks fit the bill but not much else does.

So, as I've heard it put, it's mostly a multi-core-benchmark-asic.

In my general use, I don't use more than ~4 cores, like ever. 6 cores gives me a very comfortable buffer. But I want those cores I do use to be fast. I don't run full out very often so the power at the top end doesn't matter so much. The 12500 or 12600 are the best chips out there for my use cases.

I expect the 7600X and 13500/13600 to fill a similar segment this time around.
 
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The Zen4 CPU that will really ring the bell in gaming will be the 3D-vcache versions. I expect there'll be more than one with Zen 4 as AMD knows how popular they are. They're selling all the 5800X3Ds they can make, and it's been that way since launch.
Is this outside the US? Here in the US, it's the 2nd worst selling 5000 series CPU sold at both Newegg and Amazon. #12 at Newegg, only ahead of the R5 5500 at #13. #15 at Amazon, only ahead of the R5 5600 at #16. It's in stock at both stores, so it isn't that low because it is sold out and there are none to sell.