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Kindaian said:
Nvidia achieves performance by using unrivaled amounts of power.
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Hey dude, leave some Kool-aid for the rest of us! (said no one)

Take off your Nvidia jersey and look at the facts...Nvidia only has "unrivaled power" on 2 models of graphics cards...ones priced too high for most of their customers, and even the ones who CAN afford their ridiculous MSRPs can't actually buy the cards at that price!

In EVERY OTHER PRICE bracket, AMD outperforms Nvidia. Oh, and their drivers are more stable and less likely to crash, too!
 
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John Nemesh said:
Hey dude, leave some Kool-aid for the rest of us! (said no one)

Take off your Nvidia jersey and look at the facts...Nvidia only has "unrivaled power" on 2 models of graphics cards...ones priced too high for most of their customers, and even the ones who CAN afford their ridiculous MSRPs can't actually buy the cards at that price!

In EVERY OTHER PRICE bracket, AMD outperforms Nvidia. Oh, and their drivers are more stable and less likely to crash, too!
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I took their comments more to be about power consumption.

Also, I wish AMD had just focused on hardware instead of frame interpolation and generation tech. I can imagine a world where the AMD 7000 series just provided an increase in base frames. And didn't rely on FSR at all.
 
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John Nemesh said:
Hey dude, leave some Kool-aid for the rest of us! (said no one)

Take off your Nvidia jersey and look at the facts...Nvidia only has "unrivaled power" on 2 models of graphics cards...ones priced too high for most of their customers, and even the ones who CAN afford their ridiculous MSRPs can't actually buy the cards at that price!

In EVERY OTHER PRICE bracket, AMD outperforms Nvidia. Oh, and their drivers are more stable and less likely to crash, too!
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I'm neither pro AMD or Nvidia so take this FWIW. I have an ASUS TUF 5080 and I have had no issues with it, including it's drivers. The GPU and drivers have both been very stable and I always use the latest drivers. Maybe I got lucky with both hardware and drivers.

The only issue I have is with FG where I get vertical screen tearing in MSFS 2024. Since I can achieve 60FPS without it, I don't really have a need to use it.
 
Amazon restocked the 9070XT PowerColor Reaper at MSRP which is now $799. So I placed an order and it is expected to arrive sometime in June. Hopefully it will play nice with my i9-10850K in my HP Omen 30L. At least it will fit as it is only 11.8" in length.

I need more VRAM as the 10GB of VRAM with the 3080 is pushing the limits like 9980GB of VRAM in MSFS 2024. That's why I was looking at the 7900XT because it has 20GB of VRAM.
 
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Heiro78 said:
I took their comments more to be about power consumption.

Also, I wish AMD had just focused on hardware instead of frame interpolation and generation tech. I can imagine a world where the AMD 7000 series just provided an increase in base frames. And didn't rely on FSR at all.
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Without any kind of FSR or frame gen, the 9070 XT gets within 10-15% of the performance of a card costing almost twice the price from Nvidia, so I think they are doing OK here. The ONLY card that Nvidia can claim the undisputed crown with is the 5090, which is impossible to find, and doubly so at MSRP.
 
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John Nemesh said:
Without any kind of FSR or frame gen, the 9070 XT gets within 10-15% of the performance of a card costing almost twice the price from Nvidia, so I think they are doing OK here. The ONLY card that Nvidia can claim the undisputed crown with is the 5090, which is impossible to find, and doubly so at MSRP.
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Newegg has several in stock and that is MSRP although MSRP has increased https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rtx+5090+graphic+card

Micro Center has certain 5090's in stock at store locations. I've seen them popup at Zotac and ASUS.com/us

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-5090-amp-extreme-infinity
 
John Nemesh said:
Hey dude, leave some Kool-aid for the rest of us! (said no one)

Take off your Nvidia jersey and look at the facts...Nvidia only has "unrivaled power" on 2 models of graphics cards...ones priced too high for most of their customers, and even the ones who CAN afford their ridiculous MSRPs can't actually buy the cards at that price!

In EVERY OTHER PRICE bracket, AMD outperforms Nvidia. Oh, and their drivers are more stable and less likely to crash, too!
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His post went right over your head.
 
John Nemesh said:
Almost $1000 over MSRP? F*** that!
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Those prices you are seeing, that is the new MSRP. As many of the media outlets including GN and possibly Jarred may have mentioned it. If you did not find a 5090 at the introductory MSRP of $1999 or a 9070XT at $599, those prices are long gone. All the MSRP's have been reset and have gone higher.
 
John Nemesh said:
Without any kind of FSR or frame gen, the 9070 XT gets within 10-15% of the performance of a card costing almost twice the price from Nvidia, so I think they are doing OK here. The ONLY card that Nvidia can claim the undisputed crown with is the 5090, which is impossible to find, and doubly so at MSRP.
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Yea, the 9070 is good showing. Ideally they could continue this properly while not continuing to increase prices
 
John Nemesh said:
Hey dude, leave some Kool-aid for the rest of us! (said no one)

Take off your Nvidia jersey and look at the facts...Nvidia only has "unrivaled power" on 2 models of graphics cards...ones priced too high for most of their customers, and even the ones who CAN afford their ridiculous MSRPs can't actually buy the cards at that price!

In EVERY OTHER PRICE bracket, AMD outperforms Nvidia. Oh, and their drivers are more stable and less likely to crash, too!
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Yes I was talking about the +2k Watts that you need your computer power supply to have for the top of the range hardware. That is more than my fan heater generates!
 
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John Nemesh said:
Well, a lot of it is supply and demand. AMD would have to TRIPLE production just to get a 50% market share...they are trying..
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They can't triple the production by switching a button. The production runs of TSMC are all booked for the next couple of years, probably on all factories. The reminder is just auction of expedite production runs (or cancelled slots from others), which enter into the auction again. This won't be enough to triple the production. And the last minute production runs are way more expensive, so that is detrimental for the continuity of the business.
 
Kindaian said:
They can't triple the production by switching a button. The production runs of TSMC are all booked for the next couple of years, probably on all factories. The reminder is just auction of expedite production runs (or cancelled slots from others), which enter into the auction again. This won't be enough to triple the production. And the last minute production runs are way more expensive, so that is detrimental for the continuity of the business.
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That was exactly my point. They are doing everything they can to secure production of as many chips as they can, but EVERYONE wants high end chips right now, and they are just one of many customers vying for TSMCs production.
 
AMD closing the gap such that DLSS isn't a selling point due to a competitive advantage is the right business move and good for many gamers, even as us old school enthusiasts just want raw circuit power (not meaning power consumption but the raw performance gains that used to come gen-on-gen from architecture improvements and die shrinks). Well, DLSS is supported in more games and will likely hold true for a little bit longer, but that gap will continue to narrow.
 
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