AMD's new Ryzen 9950X and 9900X CPUs are already heavily discounted below MSRP

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These processors came out only two weeks ago and are already being heavily discounted.

AMD's new Ryzen 9950X and 9900X CPUs are already heavily discounted below MSRP : Read more

 

[Amdlova]

These processors came out only two weeks ago.

Still worse than the old ones!

 

[Giroro]

I would be suspicious of that $559 9950X.

I've been tracking the 7950X and 7950X3D pricing on amazon because I keep seeing them listed at $449 and I thought that was an interesting price. Every afternoon a 3rd party seller with few/no store reviews lists the processor at that price, then it's gone by evening. The next day, a completely different store with few/new store reviews posts it at that price around the same time of day, then it goes away again.

It's weird that it's always a different seller. I think something is up.
I think the 9950X might be seeing that same suspicious pricing pattern from unvetted sellers, so keep an eye out.

Although Amazon itself has the 7950X at $451 today, that one seems legit.

 

[TeamRed2024]

Still worse than the old ones!

I guess that depends on your use case. I personally don't care about having 5 less fps than something like the 7800x3D in some random game... because the 9950X (and 7950X) will run circles around the 7800x3D in other non-gaming tasks.

Best of both worlds.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Sounds like the same old marketing tactic of inflating the price at launch to make the "real" price seem like a good deal.

 

[TeamRed2024]

Sounds like the same old marketing tactic of inflating the price at launch to make the "real" price seem like a good deal.

After paying the $649 I got the price match refund to $623 this morning. Either way... the 7950X is $513... and that $110 difference might be a dealbreaker for some but I'll take the performance bump. When you do the math I'm paying like $10 for every 1% increase in performance over the 7950X.

Why say no to that?

 

[thestryker]

Without the awful marketing leading up to the release I don't think this would have happened quite so quickly (well maybe the 9900X because the dual 6 core CCD parts seem almost unwanted by the DIY community). The only time any of these are going to be worth the money over their Zen 4 counterpart is if you're doing workloads that they're disproportionately good at. If you have a system that works and aren't making money off of those things it'd still be better to wait for lower prices though.

Personally speaking the 9950X is the only one of the 4 CPUs that's a clear winner over Zen 4 parts and that's because its power consumption is flat out lower.

Looking forward to the end of the year to see what else AMD has planned and what the performance on Intel's ARL looks like.

 

[Guardians Bane]

These processors came out only two weeks ago.

Still worse than the old ones!

Price/performance yeah... But I wouldn't go as far as to say they're worse. They are on par, if not better in most workloads. Just not gaming, for sure. And they never expected it to be a gaming powerhouse. That's what X3D will be for. And I've got my hopes up, but cautiously.

 

[thestryker]

And they never expected it to be a gaming powerhouse.

In the presentation regarding Zen 5 they literally said it would be a little faster than the 7800X3D. Then there was of course these slides:

Spoiler

AMD set awful expectations which poured cold water on the launch. Zen 5 is a good product with extremely poor expectations set and a poor comparative price.

 

[Guardians Bane]

In the presentation regarding Zen 5 they literally said it would be a little faster than the 7800X3D. Then there was of course these slides:

Spoiler

AMD set awful expectations which poured cold water on the launch. Zen 5 is a good product with extremely poor expectations set and a poor comparative price.

Vs Intel in those slides. And anyone shopping for gaming parts knows damn well that X3D is the one to get. AMD even said that Zen5 would Not beat the X3D series. And X SKUs DO have higher clocks and can be faster in most workloads over their X3D comparable CPUs.

I'm not saying Zen5 is a good bargain right now. The 7000 series SKUs are the price/performance SKUs with AMD to get right now.

AMD really did fumble the launch of the 9000 series.

 

[thestryker]

Vs Intel in those slides.

Slides that happen to be completely incorrect which is the point.

And anyone shopping for gaming parts knows damn well that X3D is the one to get. AMD even said that Zen5 would Not beat the X3D series.

They actually said it would:

View: https://youtu.be/uQ2vfw6eDJE?si=vjEwEiL2qYFTLhdQ

 

[TeamRed2024]

And anyone shopping for gaming parts knows damn well that X3D is the one to get. AMD even said that Zen5 would Not beat the X3D series.

They actually said it would

I don't do a lot of gaming and I still know the 7800x3D is the chip to get for that. I also know the 7800x3D is great for gaming and not much else.

The reviews I saw said the 9000 series had a 10-15% uplift over the 7000 series in some production tasks. So... they are on par or slightly better? Ok. The 9950X was $100 more than the 7950X. If it had been $300 more I'd have went with the latter... but for $100 more I went with Zen 5.

10% better is what? $10 per 1% uplift? C'mon... that's a great deal.

I do a lot of video work... encoding... etc... as well as CAD rendering. The gaming I do is in 4K which is more GPU demanding anyway... but for the record the 9950X and 4090 benchmark in the top 1% according to 3DMark. I don't much care about losing a few fps to an x3D chip because in production tasks I'm much better.

 

[Guardians Bane]

I don't do a lot of gaming and I still know the 7800x3D is the chip to get for that. I also know the 7800x3D is great for gaming and not much else.

The reviews I saw said the 9000 series had a 10-15% uplift over the 7000 series in some production tasks. So... they are on par or slightly better? Ok. The 9950X was $100 more than the 7950X. If it had been $300 more I'd have went with the latter... but for $100 more I went with Zen 5.

10% better is what? $10 per 1% uplift? C'mon... that's a great deal.

I do a lot of video work... encoding... etc... as well as CAD rendering. The gaming I do is in 4K which is more GPU demanding anyway... but for the record the 9950X and 4090 benchmark in the top 1% according to 3DMark. I don't much care about losing a few fps to an x3D chip because in production tasks I'm much better.

See, that's what I'm talking about... I'd prefer the higher clocks vs. reduced clocks of the X3D chips for my workload.

AMD shoes gaming results, sure... But they also show productivity benches and such.

Hell, CPU manufacturers show their low end SKUs gaming benches as well. Does that mean they think it will be at Intel 14900 or AMD 9950?

Of course not. And I'm tired of fanboys on either side focusing on game performance as being how good a CPU is.

That's just not how it works. Lol

 

[Guardians Bane]

Slides that happen to be completely incorrect which is the point.

They actually said it would:

View: https://youtu.be/uQ2vfw6eDJE?si=vjEwEiL2qYFTLhdQ

I know for a fact right before the Zen5 release AMD said that the 9700x would not beat the 7800x3d. They said it could be close. And maaaaaybe in a game or two it could inch ahead. But they also showed productivity vs power usage vs Zen 4 vs Intel... Etc ...

Btw, you do know gaming isn't the measure by which the tech and consumer sectors use to determine if a CPU is good or not.

Right?....

And being a few fps lower won't make a difference in anyone's gaming.

 

[thestryker]

I know for a fact right before the Zen5 release AMD said that the 9700x would not beat the 7800x3d. They said it could be close. And maaaaaybe in a game or two it could inch ahead. But they also showed productivity vs power usage vs Zen 4 vs Intel... Etc ...

Btw, you do know gaming isn't the measure by which the tech and consumer sectors use to determine if a CPU is good or not.

Right?....

And being a few fps lower won't make a difference in anyone's gaming.

You do understand that flagrant lies are bad right?

This is the entire point: AMD lied, there's no way they didn't know better and they wrecked their own launch of a perfectly good product by doing so.

 

[Guardians Bane]

You do understand that flagrant lies are bad right?

This is the entire point: AMD lied, there's no way they didn't know better and they wrecked their own launch of a perfectly good product by doing so.

Smh... I completely agree with the release of Zen5. I was never saying otherwise. I was never implying that AMD is allll good or allll bad.

Idc that the benchmarks aren't the exact same. Idc that the x SKUs aren't able to beat X3D. I kind of figured as much when we got benchmarks leaked before the launch. I'm not saying people should go out and buy Zen5.
As a matter of fact, I'm buildingy new PC with Zen 4 7700x. The price/performance is much better.

 

[TeamRed2024]

Of course not. And I'm tired of fanboys on either side focusing on game performance as being how good a CPU is.

That's just not how it works. Lol

Yep... more to a PC than just gaming. I get a laugh out of the CPU reviews when they show a CPU paired with a 4090 at 1080p. Who in their right mind would ever have that combo? I get the reasons but still...

You do understand that flagrant lies are bad right?

This is the entire point: AMD lied, there's no way they didn't know better and they wrecked their own launch of a perfectly good product by doing so.

The exploding x3D chips last year didn't do them any long term damage and this won't either. Quite honestly I could care less. The 9950X is an amazing chip. So the 9000 series is only a minimal bump (for production tasks) over the 7000 series... as said... it was only a $100 difference which was worth it IMO.