News AMD's Radeon RX 6400 GPUs Are Coming To a Shelf Near You

[Admin]

Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI have custom Radeon RX 6400 graphics cards ready for the retail market.

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[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

The main advantage of AMD's Radeon RX 6400 over outdated graphics boards is ongoing driver support that will last for several years down the road.

You say that, but AMD has a history of two things: Terminating driver support after as few as one year (Radeon 6000 series anyone), and effectively terminating driver support despite being still "supported" by not getting any new features or performance improvements while new cards do (Vega and Fury owners in particular should remember this).

But at $260 someone would have to be desperate to even consider this thing that's suited for the sub $60 market.

 

[LolaGT]

If this thing turns out to be a $100 or less "1030 level" card for this gen it will have a place, that place not really being in a game PC.

 

[InvalidError]

The RX6500 is hardly worth $150 and AIBs want $240+ for an RX6400? Good luck getting those dust collectors off the shelves.

 

[hotaru251]

im curious if this thign is better than modern built in graphics...idk why they'd bother releasing this thign to begin with....it scrap even if you were desperate.

 

[InvalidError]

im curious if this thign is better than modern built in graphics...idk why they'd bother releasing this thign to begin with....it scrap even if you were desperate.

Current IGPs still come short of a 1050Ti, so an RX6400 should still be a decent upgrade from IGP as long as you have 4.0x4 PCIe.

 

[KananX]

You say that, but AMD has a history of two things: Terminating driver support after as few as one year (Radeon 6000 series anyone), and effectively terminating driver support despite being still "supported" by not getting any new features or performance improvements while new cards do (Vega and Fury owners in particular should remember this).

But at $260 someone would have to be desperate to even consider this thing that's suited for the sub $60 market.

That’s nonsense, AMD rather has a history of supporting GPUs for at least 4 years, often times more, examples being all recent products, including 7000 series 6000, 200, 300, 400, 500.

i wanted to point out a mistake in the article, this card supports HDMI 2.1 as all RDNA 2 products do. And what’s a “bard”?

 

[logainofhades]

Nobody wants the RX 6500xt, why would anyone want this card?

 

[KananX]

Nobody wants the RX 6500xt, why would anyone want this card?

Strange that a “moderator” is this biased. Yet thousands of these cards have been sold. Go inform yourself

 

[InvalidError]

Strange that a “moderator” is this biased. Yet thousands of these cards have been sold. Go inform yourself

Just because people are buying them doesn't mean they WANT them. I suspect the bulk of people buying those are only doing so because it is their only option for GPU-shaped object available new anywhere near $200.

 

[logainofhades]

Strange that a “moderator” is this biased. Yet thousands of these cards have been sold. Go inform yourself

I have informed myself. For the record, my system is an all AMD system, so tell me how I am biased again? The 6500xt is a terrible product, and this isn't exactly going to be any better. The 6500xt is a generation over generation regression. At least the 3050 has decent performance, but it is overpriced compared to the faster RX 6600. Buying a used RX 580, while still overpriced on the used market, is a better buy than getting an RX 6500xt. At least it can be used for other things later, like in an HTPC.

https://www.techspot.com/news/93149-no-one-buying-amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt.html

In a GPU shortage, cards were available, even a week later. Name one other card where that has happened, since the shortages began.

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-stock-check/

 

[KananX]

Just because people are buying them doesn't mean they WANT them. I suspect the bulk of people buying those are only doing so because it is their only option for GPU-shaped object available new anywhere near $200.

Sounds like a hard cope. No, I think people who chose to buy stuff actually want them. Sorry your take is ridiculous at best, you can be happy I replied to it at all.

also a lot of 5 or 4 star reviews on those GPUs also deny your “point”.

The 6500 XT is well known to be unfairly / harshly criticized by wannabe reviewers who can’t have a balanced life. I could name them but I won’t. Fact is the GPU works well unless you abuse Ultra settings or higher res than 1080p on new games.

I have informed myself. For the record, my system is an all AMD system, so tell me how I am biased again? The 6500xt is a terrible product, and this isn't exactly going to be any better. The 6500xt is a generation over generation regression. At least the 3050 has decent performance, but it is overpriced compared to the faster RX 6600. Buying a used RX 580, while still overpriced on the used market, is a better buy than getting an RX 6500xt. At least it can be used for other things later, like in an HTPC.

https://www.techspot.com/news/93149-no-one-buying-amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt.html

In a GPU shortage, cards were available, even a week later. Name one other card where that has happened, since the shortages began.

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-stock-check/

I don’t think you did. You said nobody buys this product yet many thousands already did. You obviously hate the 6500 XT but you don’t have a point in hating it. The GPU works well enough and is the only new viable GPU for a low price aside from the low perf 1650.

 

[InvalidError]

also a lot of 5 or 4 star reviews on those GPUs also deny your “point”.

"4 or 5 stars reviews" doesn't mean much when the most frequent "positive" about the card is simply "actually available" which actually further supports my point that the main reason people are buying those is because nothing else is available for a remotely decent price.

 

[KananX]

"4 or 5 stars reviews" doesn't mean much when the most frequent "positive" about the card is simply "actually available" which actually further supports my point that the main reason people are buying those is because nothing else is available for a remotely decent price.

I have read a lot of those reviews on big sites such as Newegg or mindfactory and most of them don’t even include the words “oh it was available” and even if it’s just these words, I wouldn’t give a gpu 4-5 stars just based on availability, it also means it works well. So, no, I’ll firmly stay on my point which is based on facts. Feel free to visit those sites and check yourself.
And YouTube reviewers aren’t good, because they always dramatize things, just a aside for people that don’t know this fact. As long as a YouTube reviewer only is there to generate clicks on whatever grounds and doesn’t care to be fair, he is not even a real reviewer. Most videos that criticized this card are pure trash. A few had reasonable reviews. Some sites, so not YouTube, had the actual best and viable reviews of this card.

 

[logainofhades]

I do have a point for hating it. It is a mobile GPU, with no future use, after it can no longer game. It's x4 pci-e bus can hinder performance, on gen 3 systems, which most budget systems have. If they had made it an x8 interface, it would be a different conversation. The 5500xt is simply better, in any perceivable way. You might be fine with regression, but I am not. I would trust these guys, over some random forum poster. FYI Steve, at HUB, is a writer for techspot. https://www.techspot.com/community/staff/steve.96585/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5_oM3Ow_CI

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFpuJqx9Qmw

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArW4-mkGHSw


A well know graphics card review site.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_rx_6500_xt_review,28.html

Even Tom's didn't see it very favorably, getting a 3 out of 5 stars.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-review-xfx

Kitguru also wasn't very kind, with its assessment of this card, getting a 4 out of 10.

AMD RX 6500 XT Review ft. Gigabyte Eagle - KitGuru

Following on from the RX 6600 that hit the market back in October, today sees the launch of AMD's lo

www.kitguru.net

 

[KananX]

I do have a point for hating it. It is a mobile GPU, with no future use, after it can no longer game. It's x4 pci-e bus can hinder performance, on gen 3 systems, which most budget systems have. If they had made it an x8 interface, it would be a different conversation. The 5500xt is simply better, in any perceivable way. You might be fine with regression, but I am not. I would trust these guys, over some random forum poster. FYI Steve, at HUB, is a writer for techspot. https://www.techspot.com/community/staff/steve.96585/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5_oM3Ow_CI

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFpuJqx9Qmw

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArW4-mkGHSw


A well know graphics card review site.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_rx_6500_xt_review,28.html

Even Tom's didn't see it very favorably, getting a 3 out of 5 stars.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-review-xfx

Kitguru also wasn't very kind, with its assessment of this card, getting a 4 out of 10.

AMD RX 6500 XT Review ft. Gigabyte Eagle - KitGuru

Following on from the RX 6600 that hit the market back in October, today sees the launch of AMD's lo

www.kitguru.net

Well done you listed some of those videos I debunked as trash and not real reviews. So they are irrelevant. You’ll have a hard time finding a good video on YouTube for this card, as most are just hypercritical andys who wanted to generate clicks based on hate.
That said, I don’t even like TPU but the best review is from TPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-6500-xt-pulse/
I recommend to read the summary completely and don’t skip a part of it to suit your own agenda. It’s a overall fair critical review, not a unfair one like these wannabes in YouTube.

Sorry but GN isn’t Jesus and he isn’t gospel. HUB isn’t even worth mentioning, this guy has obvious hate problems sometimes. I wouldn’t care too much about video reviews in general, written reviews are still easily better.

For YouTube videos I would only recommend this one:

View: https://youtu.be/ICnz6E7vux0


the hard fact and truth is, at the end people who use it matter and not reviewers. And most reviews of this card are overwhelmingly 4 or 5 stars from users. So debate it to death or accept you never had a point. The 6500 XT is fine for what it is. A cheap card in times of expensive cards that does the job. Rendering pixels.

 

[TechyInAZ]

LOL!!!!

 

[TechyInAZ]

By that reasoning, every single GPU ever produced in the history of the world is the world's greatest GPU ever, just because it fits someone well, doesn't mean its good in the grand scheme of things.

There's no denying that the 6500XT had a purpose, and that was to be a temporary GPU for the masses until the GPU prices settled down. That I'm actually ok with, and it seemed to work out decently well.

But, it doesn't deny the fact that the 6500 XT is a dumpster fire of a GPU for any other reason in the GPU market. Its PCie Gen 4.0 x4 configuration is idiotic at best, and there's no excuse for it lacking the AV1 video decoder, which absolutely kills this GPU's as a HTPC option, which arguably it would be very good at if it did have all the modern decoders/encoders.

Another slap in the face is its barely usable 4GB frame buffer, which makes it only good for e sports and older titles. So its a new card to play old games well basically.

Basically, it comes down to the RX 6500 XT is terrible because of what the GPU market and GPU competition dictate. Sure, for some people its going to serve as a very good product for their purposes, but that is true of all bad products period.

 

[TechyInAZ]

I find it ironic that you say that, when the only facts you bring up only support your agenda.

Again, I'm not fully discrediting the RX 6500 XT. It has its place, and that's not a bad thing, so in that regard I actually agree with your statement, it can be good for people with specific needs. But, we cannot disregard all the cons of the RX 6500 XT, that would be unfair.

 

[InvalidError]

Again, I'm not fully discrediting the RX 6500 XT. It has its place

It would have a more legitimate place in the market if it was $150. At $200+, its only saving grace is being the only thing available anywhere near that price point.

Based on the still absurdly high prices on GTX1650(S), I'd say many people are actively avoiding the RX6500 even if it costs them $50-100 more for less performance. If Nvidia re-launched the much maligned 1650 at its original $150 MSRP, it'd be a big hit in today's market.

 

[spentshells]

when I watched videos, as long as you have a pcie4 slot, this is a rx570 level of performance... impressive for what it is sadly the market it's made for doesnt have pcie4 which makes it adjacent to useless

 

[TechyInAZ]

It would have a more legitimate place in the market if it was $150. At $200+, its only saving grace is being the only thing available anywhere near that price point.

Based on the still absurdly high prices on GTX1650(S), I'd say many people are actively avoiding the RX6500 even if it costs them $50-100 more for less performance. If Nvidia re-launched the much maligned 1650 at its original $150 MSRP, it'd be a big hit in today's market.

I agree. That is its only purpose. Heck, even when it did come out, you could still find some comparable deals on ebay for used cards with better performance for similar money.

 

[watzupken]

Strange that a “moderator” is this biased. Yet thousands of these cards have been sold. Go inform yourself

I think you fail to understand that moderators are also human and have their opinions. And while I agree that thousands of these cards were sold and may still be sold at this rate, but in the enthusiast space, this is not a desirable card for so many reasons. I don’t buy into being loyal to a certain brand, and objectively, I cannot help but the RX 6500 XT is a bad joke from AMD. It is gimped in every possible way that it does not benefit budget gamers (which is why this is call a budget/ entry level card)with systems that have PCI-E 3.0 connection, lack of codec support means it is not good for HTPC, only 2 display out means it may not work well for work where you need multi monitor support, etc… Even miners don’t want it because of the lack of VRAM. There are so many reasons why this card can be nominated as one of the worst GPU released for the last 2 decades or more. .

 

[InvalidError]

There are so many reasons why this card can be nominated as one of the worst GPU released for the last 2 decades or more. .

I wouldn't quite say worst GPU in 20 years but in the context of GPUs from the last six years, it certainly sucks beyond words that a "new" $200+ GPU from 2022 gets outclassed by 5-6 years old $200 GPUs in some circumstances. Such a thing would be impossible in a remotely healthy market.

 

[watzupken]

I wouldn't quite say worst GPU in 20 years but in the context of GPUs from the last six years, it certainly sucks beyond words that a "new" $200+ GPU from 2022 gets outclassed by 5-6 years old $200 GPUs in some circumstances. Such a thing would be impossible in a remotely healthy market.

The reason for saying that is because while we do see some releases in the past where performance regressed, I don’t recall (or maybe I forgotten) a card released that regressed in almost every aspect. Objectively, we do see performance improvement, but the condition is that the user is using a system with a PCI-E 4.0 slot. Otherwise if stuck on PCI-E 3.0, performance may tank.