News AMD's upcoming integrated graphics matches seven years old GTX 1060 in Geekbench 6 — Ryzen 5 8600G iGPU benchmarks leak

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The Radeon 760M's score is slightly better than Nvidia's GeForce GTX 1060, or slightly worse than Nvidia's (much maligned) GTX 1630.

How does this sentence make sense? Both of those clauses in the sentence cannot be true at the same time.

EDIT: ok, now I think I get it . . it's slightly better than the 1060 in Vulkan, and slightly worse than the 1630 in OpenCL, and that they're still talking about the version of the 760M specifically in the 8600G. But writing it they way that they did is unclear/confusing.
 
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So the iGPU in the 8600G is roughly equal to the GTX 1060, which is roughly equal to AMD's Radeon RX 580 from seven years ago. It usually takes around 7 years for AMD's product stack to cycle through, where the 7 year old high end product gets out performed by the latest low-end offering. So the performance and timing are about right.
I'm going to seriously consider a 8700G for my next build, and even more so if they make a version with the additional cache.
 
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An X3D part, that would be super neat, but I don't think that's in current the cards, at least not that I know of.
There's no chance of it. The desktop APUs mirror the mainstream mobile APU lineup - standard Phoenix, but also the smaller Phoenix2 die this time around.

Dragon Range X3D, e.g. the 7945HX3D, are Zen 4 desktop CPUs (Raphael) repackaged to go into laptops.

I think Strix Point will increase L3 cache to 24 MiB, from 16 MiB, which would be a respectable increase. Then there's Strix Halo which is its own thing, and may be found in mini PCs but not the AM5 socket. We don't know anything yet about big L3 caches (whether its "X3D" or "Infinity Cache") coming to AMD APUs in the future.
 

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If it truly does match a 1060, that'd be awesome!
I repurposed my old 1060 for a secondary machine I just built a couple months ago, and it still does 1080p gaming pretty respectably. I don't mean e-sports; I mean even AAA games from 2022 with lower settings (which often still looks fantastic, in many games.)

I hope this turns out to be accurate.
 
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The memory bandwidth is going to be a very real problem for these parts. Using 6400 would match most current 7840U/7640U implementations, but those can go up to 7500. If the APUs can switch to a 2:1 ratio then potentially faster DRAM can be used, but at that point you'd be spending so much on DRAM you should probably just buy a video card.
 

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that's a rather strong integrated graphics. People can do medium settings on certain demanding games, or even high settings on certain low resource games. Honestly depends on the game. But having an integrated graphics as strong as a 1060 would save some cash.
 

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The memory bandwidth is going to be a very real problem for these parts. Using 6400 would match most current 7840U/7640U implementations, but those can go up to 7500. If the APUs can switch to a 2:1 ratio then potentially faster DRAM can be used, but at that point you'd be spending so much on DRAM you should probably just buy a video card.
I see price of $110 USD for DDR5 7200 32GB kit of 2*16GB right now in A****n. Price is good, speed also is good for 8000G series. I think that would not problem to be used. Last few versions of Agesa unlock using of faster DDR5 for AMD CPU's I believe for APU's too.
 
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How does this sentence make sense? Both of those clauses in the sentence cannot be true at the same time.

EDIT: ok, now I think I get it . . it's slightly better than the 1060 in Vulkan, and slightly worse than the 1630 in OpenCL, and that they're still talking about the version of the 760M specifically in the 8600G. But writing it they way that they did is unclear/confusing.
Makes zero sense to me, unless they are claiming the 760M does both of the following:

defeats the GTX1060 (odd that they did not mention which GTX1060's scores were being compared, the crippled 3 GB version or the 6 GB version)

Loses to the GTX1630.. (Are they saying the GTX1630 defeats the GTX1060? I doubt that)
 
The dream (no need for a dGPU in laptop) will be realised when AMD makes a Ryzen 9 sized chip with 1 CCD compute tile and 1 CCD graphics tile. 40 CU and 2560 shader cores, competing with PS5 GPU in terms of core count.
 

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I find this very interesting. That an integrated GPU with this level of power replaces the popular GTX-1060 and allow me to avoid the expensive graphics card is wonderful. Any games that I play is for fun. I don't need 200 fps and even though I can get those numbers I limit the card to avoid putting heat stress on the card. I use to drink the GPU Kool-Aid but now I only enjoy it in my glass.
 
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