Question An ASRock Taichi Lite board with BTF ?

[FreeBee101]

Is there any chance we will get a Taichi Lite board with BTF on it? This is the one board that seems to fit all the bells and whistles for me and is affordable. I wish the none lite board was only 50 dollars more like I saw in a video from 6-9 months ago.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X870E Taichi Lite/index.asp

While ASRock doesn't use the "BTF" (Back To the Future) branding, they are developing their own version of back-connect motherboards, which they are calling "BMD" (Back Mount Design). ASRock plans to unveil their first BMD motherboards at CES 2025. These boards will have connectors on the back for a cleaner look when paired with compatible cases. ASUS uses the "BTF" branding, and MSI uses "Project Zero" for their back-connect motherboards.

I really want a BMD taichi board! (I keep refering to them as BDM! ><)

 

[Lutfij]

That would depend on the market's demand. No point in making a product that only caters to a niche...without it being profitable for them.

I really want a BMD taichi board!
Contact ASRock see what they have to say.

Side note, I'd steer clear of ASRock motherboards.

 

[FreeBee101]

I was hoping the taichi were better qaulity. What makes asrock so bad? People keep saying avoid them. I though maybe the eatx boards were better. Especially since they have such nice features.

Are there going to be any good btf style x870E boards. I'm still waiting to see if any come out that are black and fit the build color wise.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aital/saved/#view=wcw97P

I want ideally 12/24 core, 24/48gb vram 24/48/96gb system ram @6000/12000mhz. It's a stupid system theme. I may have to wait for am6 at this point. I was hoping to buy sooner, but I didn't realize how long that was going to take to come out. Let alone the new x3d cpus for zen 5.

 

[dwd999]

I use the ASUS TUF GAMING B850-BTF WIFI White motherboard. B850 is sufficient for my needs. I don't plan on ever going back to front connect, at least for visible glass case use. I tried that and now both motherboard and case are sitting in storage. I don't know if there are stats for the percentage of glass cases compared to enclosed cases, and the percentage of those glass cases that support back connect, but I suspect that eventually all glass cases will support back connect and be used that way. Part of the problem is the GPU power connection. ASUS created and then Patented its GPU back connect power connector so other companies have to license it, which has slowed adoption. They announced a 5070ti GPU but they don't appear to be shipping yet. Sapphire also indicated that it will release a 9070XT with what they are referring to as a PhantomLink connection but that my be a month or 2 away.

 

[FreeBee101]

Not having to deal with the power cord sounds like a good idea with the melting problem for the 4000 and 5000 stuff. Why would nvidia not push this default? I'm assuming it's fundamentally safer than the cord. Plus that simplifies PSU's down a lot. I wonder how much money could be saved on a BTF oriented PSU?! Or would it just connect the same thing on the back of the mobo? or do they have shortened power cords for btf? Doesn't that improves signals somehow?

And are they going to come out in black. I wouldn't mind black white combo, but all btf stuff is currently white sadly.

I definitely want btf and a gpu to go with it.

And the asus website says 1000w connector. That has to be a good thing for our current gpu's. That should be made mandatory at this point.

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7 BTF White OC

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti BTF White Edition offers ultimate durability and cooling performance with military-grade components

www.asus.com

 

[dwd999]

Not having to deal with the power cord sounds like a good idea with the melting problem for the 4000 and 5000 stuff. Why would nvidia not push this default? I'm assuming it's fundamentally safer than the cord. Plus that simplifies PSU's down a lot. I wonder how much money could be saved on a BTF oriented PSU?! Or would it just connect the same thing on the back of the mobo? or do they have shortened power cords for btf? Doesn't that improves signals somehow?

And are they going to come out in black. I wouldn't mind black white combo, but all btf stuff is currently white sadly.

I definitely want btf and a gpu to go with it.

And the asus website says 1000w connector. That has to be a good thing for our current gpu's. That should be made mandatory at this point.

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7 BTF White OC

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti BTF White Edition offers ultimate durability and cooling performance with military-grade components

www.asus.com

The power cord is connected to the back of the motherboard so if there's any damage the more expensive gpu would not be damaged. But the gpus I'm considering use way less than the maximum 600 watt power capacity of the cable; the Sapphire 9070XT is rated as 340 watts max.

This is how far I've gotten so far:

https://imgur.com/a/wEH231E

View: https://imgur.com/a/wEH231E

 

[FreeBee101]

I like how the tubes come out the top. that is even cleaner looking. I will have to see if i can do that in the Phanteks evolve x2 case. I would have never thought to wire guide the AIO tubing. Was there anything difficult about doing that?

Is asus the only company with the back power connect for the gpu? the 850 gigabyte board doesn't have it.

Have you seen a btf that was not the 1500 dollar oc edition. I can barely find that let along the non oc. I was hoping it was at least 1000 dollars or less.

 

[dwd999]

I like how the tubes come out the top. that is even cleaner looking. I will have to see if i can do that in the Phanteks evolve x2 case. I would have never thought to wire guide the AIO tubing. Was there anything difficult about doing that?

Is asus the only company with the back power connect for the gpu? the 850 gigabyte board doesn't have it.

You can learn more about the AIO and the tubes:

Hydroshift II LCD-C - LIAN LI is a Leading Provider of PC Cases | Computer Cases

BetterPerformance 2.1” IPS 60Hz LCD screen Three control modes Enhanced Compatibility Available in three versions Side-mounted water tubes Hidden cable design 6-year warranty https://youtu.be/ABl0hNczmxg Three Versions / Two Colors Hydroshift II LCD-C is designed for ultimate convenience, with...

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We are ahead of the curve with BTF so it will probably be next January's CES before we see more motherboards with back connect gpu sockets. One positive sign I noticed is that the ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti 16GB GDDR7 BTF White OC Edition was only listed on their home website before and now they've listed it on their US website so US sales must be imminent.

 

[FreeBee101]

Just found this. I think I will at least wait for this to be a real thing:

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...eless-builds-gc-hpwr-has-a-retractable-design

Asus has yet to announce whether it release BTF 2.0 motherboards and graphics cards is unknown. Thus far, the brand has not announced any RTX 50-series or Radeon RX 9070-series products with the BTF 2.0 standard.

Waiting for 6000 series potentially.

The other thing I saw that might be nice is the AI coherent memmory stuff. I'm assuming it won't be on desktop motherboards for a long time. It's the stuff in the M2 ultra apple computer. I'd love that on a standard or high end destkop motherboard. Maybe we will one day get deep dive like MMORPG's on day.

BTF needs to become standard.

 

[FreeBee101]

Another interesting question about BTF boards. Does it need an atx5.1 for a 5000 card or can you go with normal 3.0/5.0 because of the differenct connector.

I can get a very cheap 1300W platinum lain li edge power supply for around 200 dollars. This gives me extra room in my build for more stuff if I go with an older 3.0/5.0 PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aital/saved/wcw97P

EDGE - LIAN LI is a Leading Provider of PC Cases | Computer Cases

850W / 1000W /1300W THE “POWER” FOR DUAL CHAMBER CASES The EDGE PSU series introduces a revolutionary power supply featuring a unique L-shape design, an integrated USB hub, and enhanced efficiency. Experience the blend of aesthetics and convenience in your PC build. 80 PLUS PLATINUM CYBENETIC...

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Only compliant for 3.1 so it's 200 instead of 550 dollars. if that works that is a major factor for getting a btf board and gpu. It actually makes up for the different in price potentially.

 

[dwd999]

Another interesting question about BTF boards. Does it need an atx5.1 for a 5000 card or can you go with normal 3.0/5.0 because of the differenct connector.

I can get a very cheap 1300W platinum lain li edge power supply for around 200 dollars. This gives me extra room in my build for more stuff if I go with an older 3.0/5.0 PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aital/saved/wcw97P

EDGE - LIAN LI is a Leading Provider of PC Cases | Computer Cases

850W / 1000W /1300W THE “POWER” FOR DUAL CHAMBER CASES The EDGE PSU series introduces a revolutionary power supply featuring a unique L-shape design, an integrated USB hub, and enhanced efficiency. Experience the blend of aesthetics and convenience in your PC build. 80 PLUS PLATINUM CYBENETIC...

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Only compliant for 3.1 so it's 200 instead of 550 dollars. if that works that is a major factor for getting a btf board and gpu. It actually makes up for the different in price potentially.

That power supply does have a 12VHPWR connector so it will work well with BTF motherboards. It is almost the same as the Lian Li Edge Gold 1200 that I use. The Gold also provides a hub with 6 extra 4-pin pwm power connectors which help power the wireless receivers attached to the fans. With the wireless fans 2 4-pin power connections are need for each fan cluster or single fan. So a 3+3+1 fan arrangement would require 6 4-pin pwm power connections which the Gold hub provides.

 

[FreeBee101]

If I can find the NON wireless version of that fan can that use only the older PSU?

Did they stop selling these?:

UNI FAN TL - LIAN LI is a Leading Provider of PC Cases | Computer Cases

SLIDE IN DAISY-CHAIN STYLE LCP FAN BLADES ENGINEERED MOTOR ENLARGED INFINITY MIRROR DUAL ZONE LIGHTING EFFECTS L-CONNECT 3 SOFTWARE https://youtu.be/ufWeJ4U67Q0 Download L-Connect 3 AVAILABLE IN TWO COLORS/ TWO SIZES/ TWO ORIENTATIONS Elevate the PC setup with UNI FAN TL black and white fans...

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[dwd999]

If I can find the NON wireless version of that fan can that use only the older PSU?

Did they stop selling these?:

UNI FAN TL - LIAN LI is a Leading Provider of PC Cases | Computer Cases

SLIDE IN DAISY-CHAIN STYLE LCP FAN BLADES ENGINEERED MOTOR ENLARGED INFINITY MIRROR DUAL ZONE LIGHTING EFFECTS L-CONNECT 3 SOFTWARE https://youtu.be/ufWeJ4U67Q0 Download L-Connect 3 AVAILABLE IN TWO COLORS/ TWO SIZES/ TWO ORIENTATIONS Elevate the PC setup with UNI FAN TL black and white fans...

lian-li.com

They seem to be out of stock at most places. But each 3 pack of wireless TL fans comes with a sata power cable which splits into 3 4-pin pwm power cables. So you can use a sata power cable from your psu to connect to those and have the 6 necessary pwm connections.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a8y5cD62bjWpCm7C__uim6kLXAAVq_3P/view?usp=sharing