Anti-Downloading Law Goes Live in Japan: 2 Years in Prison

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freggo

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Where does that put a Japanese user of YouTube?
I mean there is plenty of questionable material there. Is watching an unauthorized music video 'downloading' ?
Is uploading to YouTube getting you 10 years ?
 

captainblacko

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[citation][nom]may1[/nom]It's simply a law to stop stupid people (basically the majority of Japanese users) downloading illegal contents.[/citation]

Have you any facts or figures to back up that comment?
 

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[citation][nom]may1[/nom]It's pretty much ineffective, cyberlockers won't get you caught, and you can easily hide your IP using free public proxy servers on torrents. It's simply a law to stop stupid people (basically the majority of Japanese users) downloading illegal contents.[/citation]

It's not really ineffective. if it makes 10% of people to start buying things they would illegally download otherwise, the RIAJ got their lobby money back with interest. The way I see it, it's not about being right, it's about economics: biggest return (more people buying records) on the smallest investment (lobby a few politicians).
 

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[citation][nom]captainblacko[/nom]Have you any facts or figures to back up that comment?[/citation]
The majority isn't dumb but they aren't smart enough to use proxy or VPN to download safely so these types of things are made for that reason. These laws won't stop the smart users who know how to hide (which are a minority).
 

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the majority of internet users wouldn't know how to use a proxy or VPN. I was just trying to suggest that he shouldn't stereotype the whole Japanese population as being stupid. Really wound me up when i first read it haha.
 

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Not a problem in Japan yet. "Crime" of this type is very low. I can see them trying to prevent future cultural acceptance of such activity like in the US.
 

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[citation][nom]may1[/nom]It's pretty much ineffective, cyberlockers won't get you caught, and you can easily hide your IP using free public proxy servers on torrents.[/citation]

Implying free public proxy servers allow enough bandwidth for downloading. You must have never used them.
 

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[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]Implying free public proxy servers allow enough bandwidth for downloading. You must have never used them.[/citation]music cost a fraction of bandwidth... so brace urself soon u heard a news about some noob get jail for someone else use his internetz to DL illegal music.
 

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Along with blowing up nuclear power plants this "illegal downloading" law puts Japan in to another 'do not want to live in' country list.
I guess soon enough an armed robbery will carry less of a sentence.

Corporate arm must be jacking-off strong in Japan to pass crap like this.
 

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All you complainers are just full of shit. I have been living in Japan for the past 4 years now, and this country is far better then the US. To say you hate that country because you think "downloading illegally" makes it a terrible country is absurd. Go out and date a girl, moron.
 

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That awkward moment when you live in a world where stealing a song puts you in jail more time than when you kill a man by accident with your car or when you steal few billion dollars from some banks.
 

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Instead of complaining about a law against something that should be understood as illegal anyway, or defending those who take part in illegal acts, why don't we try finding a useful suggestion for how people can enjoy content without having to steal it?
 

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With the ridiculous compute on an sli rig, coupled with the guaranteed over-saturation of wireless networks, i can see many, many, people getting jail time over WEP.

While im sure there is a portion of illegal downloaders that will be influenced to buy(or ignore if they download for financial reasons) content, the reality is that there is no reliable way to track the number of downloads; every firm that speculates on these numbers, takes a small sample then arbitrarily multiplies.

I am sure we all remember the piracy claims counting losses numbering more than exist in the world.

 

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[citation][nom]happyballz[/nom]Along with blowing up nuclear power plants this "illegal downloading" law puts Japan in to another 'do not want to live in' country list. I guess soon enough an armed robbery will carry less of a sentence. Corporate arm must be jacking-off strong in Japan to pass crap like this.[/citation]
It's difficult to tell if this comment is more bigoted, angry, paranoid, or just plain stupid.
 

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Wow, I'm surprised at the amount of ignorance, animosity and jealousy regarding Japanese people.
The average Japanese IQ is about 110-120, the highest average IQ in the world.
Kenichi Ohmae has an IQ of 216, possibly the highest in the world.
 

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Japan forgot that themselves have one of the longest and biggest pirate fleet in history, they rampage korea, china and south east asia coast for Millennium.
 

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This is just plain stupid, now going to jail for uploading or downloading music ??
Downloads that doesn't harm as much as the industry tries to make everyone believes.

With this kind of law is easier and less punitive to steal the album that downloading it, which doesn't make sense
 

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[citation][nom]captainblacko[/nom]the majority of internet users wouldn't know how to use a proxy or VPN. I was just trying to suggest that he shouldn't stereotype the whole Japanese population as being stupid. Really wound me up when i first read it haha.[/citation]

My assumption was that he intended to stereotype the whole human population as being stupid, and applied the generalization to one subset of people; which is much more fair :)
 

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[citation][nom]DjScribbles[/nom]My assumption was that he intended to stereotype the whole human population as being stupid, and applied the generalization to one subset of people; which is much more fair[/citation]

Funniest comment I've read this week! Thumbs up! :)
 
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