[SOLVED] Any 500 series motherboards that can do 32gigs of RAM at 3200mhz?

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I've got 2 extra sticks of 8gig 3200mhz DDR4, and my MSI x470 Gaming Plus doesn't want to give me speeds above 2666 when I put them in my mobo for a total of 32gigs (crashing). I'm planning on getting a 5800x anyways, so I'd like to know if there are any 500 series boards that can handle 32gigs of 3200mhz DDR4.

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4 DIMMs. They are all the same g skillz sticks, but the rated speed of 3200mhz is only for 16 gigs (2 sticks). Ryzen 5 2600, oc'd to 4.1ghz all cores.

Looking to get a Zen 3 5800x, and a 500 series mobo that can handle 32gigs at 3200mhz.
Memory kits use matched DIMM's so that they work together well using the same settings. Getting high memory clocks on 4 DIMM's is always dicey, and getting high memory clocks on different kits, even if they're the SAME mfr and part number, is always dicey too. The dicey-ness adds exponentially so together it's dicey squared.

More than likely it's not the motherboard that is your problem.

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How many DIMM's?

Do all the DIMM's come from one single matched kit?

Which CPU? only Zen 2 and Zen 3 are rated for 3200 RAM.


4 DIMMs. They are all the same g skillz sticks, but the rated speed of 3200mhz is only for 16 gigs (2 sticks). Ryzen 5 2600, oc'd to 4.1ghz all cores.

Looking to get a Zen 3 5800x, and a 500 series mobo that can handle 32gigs at 3200mhz.
 
4 DIMMs. They are all the same g skillz sticks, but the rated speed of 3200mhz is only for 16 gigs (2 sticks). Ryzen 5 2600, oc'd to 4.1ghz all cores.

Looking to get a Zen 3 5800x, and a 500 series mobo that can handle 32gigs at 3200mhz.
Memory kits use matched DIMM's so that they work together well using the same settings. Getting high memory clocks on 4 DIMM's is always dicey, and getting high memory clocks on different kits, even if they're the SAME mfr and part number, is always dicey too. The dicey-ness adds exponentially so together it's dicey squared.

More than likely it's not the motherboard that is your problem.
 
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From your MB Specifications (Details Tab):
4 x DDR4 memory slots, support up to 128GB *ComboPI 1.0.0.3-based and above BIOS are required.
Specification X470 GAMING PLUS | MSI Global
So you might just need to update the BIOS:
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And your MB QVL for Ryzen 2000 CPU's lists a few 4 stick kits that can run at 3200.
But, It sounds like the 4 sticks you have are Not fully compatible.
2 kits with the same model Number might have different IC's and PCB.
RAM is sold in kits for that Exact reason.
 

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you will also find a lot less issue with 2 sticks instead of 4. i understand you already have the 4 sticks but i usually recommend 2 sticks when possible. when using 4 sticks you usually have to look close at the motherboard manual. it will break down if there are limitations when using 4 sticks. often it will limit speed, voltage, dictate single vs dual sided and other possible restrictions to use all 4 sticks. you'll have to check out your mobo manual to see if any of this applies to you, but it is a pretty high probability if you are getting lots of crashes and other issues.
 
Oh yeah...just noticed you're attempting this feat on a Ryzen 2600. You do know the 2600 processor is only rated for 2933 memory? That means even if everything is ideal...two (only) high quality sticks...it's still an overclocking situation for the processor.

It's possible, but you may have to tweak BIOS timings settings to settle things in even with two sticks. Four sticks I have to think it's guaranteed you'll have to tweak a lot and test even more to be sure it's stable. That 5800 will be a lot nicer to you, but 2 matched 16gig sticks would make it a fairly sure thing.
 

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Oh yeah...just noticed you're attempting this feat on a Ryzen 2600. You do know the 2600 processor is only rated for 2933 memory? That means even if everything is ideal...two (only) high quality sticks...it's still an overclocking situation for the processor.

It's possible, but you may have to tweak BIOS timings settings to settle things in even with two sticks. Four sticks I have to think it's guaranteed you'll have to tweak a lot and test even more to be sure it's stable. That 5800 will be a lot nicer to you, but 2 matched 16gig sticks would make it a fairly sure thing.


I never knew that the 2600 was only rated for 2933. When I built, I put in the 2 sticks of ram, selected the 3200mhz XMP profile in the bios, and it's run great with my 2600 oc'd to 4.1 ghz.
 

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I never knew that the 2600 was only rated for 2933. When I built, I put in the 2 sticks of ram, selected the 3200mhz XMP profile in the bios, and it's run great with my 2600 oc'd to 4.1 ghz.
That all depends on the motherboard (BIOS).
My 2600 / Asus ROG Strix B450-F rig runs my 3200 RAM at 3200 without any issues.
AMD states 2933 RAM as the supported limit for Ryzen 2000 CPUs but many MB's can run 3200 (OC) or even 3466 (OC) with Ryzen 2000 CPUs.
 
Running 2x8GB 3200MT/s isn't usually an issue on 400 series boards and Ryzen 2000 CPUs. The issue is dual rank configurations like 4x8GB are much less likely to run stable at 3200 CL14-CL16 compared to dual rank 2x16GB CL14-CL16. Even 2x16GB may not be stable until running it at CL18, but then you might as well drop to 3000 CL14 as it will be pretty much the same performance, but you are far less likely to have stability issues.

I have tried getting 4x8GB 3200 CL14 Samsung B-die to work on my B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600 many different times and it just doesn't work for me. I've settled on manually tuning my 4x8GB to 3000 CL14-14-14-28-44-292 1T.
 
That all depends on the motherboard (BIOS).
My 2600 / Asus ROG Strix B450-F rig runs my 3200 RAM at 3200 without any issues.
AMD states 2933 RAM as the supported limit for Ryzen 2000 CPUs but many MB's can run 3200 (OC) or even 3466 (OC) with Ryzen 2000 CPUs.

I am running 2x8GB 3200 MHz sticks of RAM (G.Skill F4-3200C-8GVGB) 16 with my ASUS TUF Gaming X570 Plus with an AMD 2700x. No problems whatsoever.
 
I never knew that the 2600 was only rated for 2933. When I built, I put in the 2 sticks of ram, selected the 3200mhz XMP profile in the bios, and it's run great with my 2600 oc'd to 4.1 ghz.
Check out the AMD specifications page for 2600 processors:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-2600

That doesn't mean it can't do it and anyone should absolutely try it. Just temper expectations accordingly.
 

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Running 2x8GB 3200MT/s isn't usually an issue on 400 series boards and Ryzen 2000 CPUs. The issue is dual rank configurations like 4x8GB are much less likely to run stable at 3200 CL14-CL16 compared to dual rank 2x16GB CL14-CL16. Even 2x16GB may not be stable until running it at CL18, but then you might as well drop to 3000 CL14 as it will be pretty much the same performance, but you are far less likely to have stability issues.

I have tried getting 4x8GB 3200 CL14 Samsung B-die to work on my B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600 many different times and it just doesn't work for me. I've settled on manually tuning my 4x8GB to 3000 CL14-14-14-28-44-292 1T.
Thank you. I'm going to try those timings at that speed, when I get a chance.
 
Thank you. I'm going to try those timings at that speed, when I get a chance.
Those timings were more for my own ram. If you don't have modules that use Samsung B-die ram chips, you will likely need to use different timings and possibly voltage, but CL14-14-14-34 as primary timings and everything else on automatic may work fine at 2933-3000MT/s and 1.35v. I used Dram Calculator for Ryzen ver 1.7.3 to tune my ram timings. You will need to read through the tutorials to get it working properly with your specific ram kit(s). Use this site to look for your own ram kits to see if they are B-die or not. https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ You won't find all kits that use B-die at that site, so you may have to search online for awhile.
 

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Those timings were more for my own ram. If you don't have modules that use Samsung B-die ram chips, you will likely need to use different timings and possibly voltage, but CL14-14-14-34 as primary timings and everything else on automatic may work fine at 2933-3000MT/s and 1.35v. I used Dram Calculator for Ryzen ver 1.7.3 to tune my ram timings. You will need to read through the tutorials to get it working properly with your specific ram kit(s). Use this site to look for your own ram kits to see if they are B-die or not. https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ You won't find all kits that use B-die at that site, so you may have to search online for awhile.


Not to beat a dead horse here, but I want to thank you. I put in those other 2 sticks of ram, slightly increased the voltage, decreased the speed to 3066mhz, and decreased the timings. From what I'm seeing in benchmarks and gameplay (battlefield 5 and Resident Evil 3), I haven't gotten an increase or decrease in performance, but have gained a drastically larger memory cache. 👍
 
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Not to beat a dead horse here, but I want to thank you. I put in those other 2 sticks of ram, slightly increased the voltage, decreased the speed to 3066mhz, and decreased the timings. From what I'm seeing in benchmarks and gameplay (battlefield 5 and Resident Evil 3), I haven't gotten an increase or decrease in performance, but have gained a drastically larger memory cache. 👍
Make sure you run memtest86 for at least one full pass of the default automatic test to check for stability issues. You might end up corrupting your Windows installation if it's not stable.