Question Any chance I could get advice on a new GPU?

[Ksan]

I'm not great at knowing what works the best and what would be the best way to go so I'm asking for help.

I've never had a high FPS GPU before (The best I've ever owned is my current GPU the RX 6600 XT) and I've saved to buy my first, either the RX 6800 XT or I was thinking why not just get the best I can afford right now and hope it last me a long time to game with and buy the RX 7900 XT. I was hoping you guys could lead me in the right direction. I'm not really looking at the RX 6950 XT because I would need to upgrade my PSU to a biggest one for that GPU.

My gaming PC right now is using this...... a MSI Z590 Mobo, a I5 11600k, 32-Gig's of 3200 CL-16, Team Group M.2 and a Seagate Hard Drive, A Sapphire RX 6600 XT and a MSI A750GF for the PSU. My monitor that I just bought six months ago, is the Gigabyte M32Q and with me starting to game at 1440 is why I'm really wanting to upgrade my GPU. If you guys think the RX 7900 XT is the way I should go then I would move up to 4K gaming, but it would be the start of next year before I could get a 4K monitor. I just don't know enough to know if the RX 6800 XT would work for a good while for me or if I should just get the newer model while I'm upgrading to my first high end GPU. Thank you all for any advice and help you could give me.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

The RX 6800 XT is a solid GPU, especially at its current price of ~$540 give or take. However, it's beginning to become a bit aged. It should still trade blows with the RTX 4070 in raw performance. Either of those cards would be a solid choice for 1440p gaming right now. AMD has the advantage of extra VRAM. Nvidia has the advantage of DLSS3. You're in a tight spot, because for only $650 you can get the RX 6950 XT; however, it does draw a LOT of power and I would NOT rely on an under-powered PSU to keep up. That leaves you with the $800 price range, which is a little much for anything that is meant to play games IMO.

 

[Ksan]

Thank you for your info, Yes, I'm kind of stuck, not knowing which way to go. If I bought the 6950 XT for $650 I would then have to add a PSU for $150 and it would be the same $800 as if I just bought the newer 7900 XT than can run on my PSU. It is very hard to spend that $800 on it and not get the $520 6800 XT but then I fear I would just be buying something that I would have to turn around and upgrade pretty quickly down the road. I'm just very indecisive about which way to go with my choice. Thanks for your input.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

Then I would wait. Prices are rumored to go down further.

 

[umeng2002_2]

DLSS 3 is not a joke. I think it's better than DLSS 2. At 1440p, I notice a bigger quality degradation from DLSS 2 Quality vs. Balanced compared to DLSS 3 off vs. on.

The lack of a DLSS 3 competitor is AMD's greatest weakness right now if you care about ray-tracing. I can easily get over 60 fps with Cyberpunk RT Overdrive path-tracing with DLSS 3 on my 4070 Ti with a combination of DLSS 2 and 3. Without DLSS 3 and just DLSS 2 at Quality or Balanced, it's under 15 fps.

Frankly, If you have the money, I would just go for a 4080 or 4090 or wait 6 months. God knows nVidia has a 4090 Ti or 4070 Super 14 GB coming up.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

While DLSS3 does offer a massive performance increase, the 4070 and 4070 Ti are limited by their 12GB vRAM capacity and DLSS may have the occasional (if not more) glitching/blurring. I don't think they should cost that much while being intentionally made for premature obsoletion. For example, the RTX 4070 Ti should cost at least $100 less than it does currently, if not $150 less. They both should have 16GB vRAM, because now the 4060 and 4060 Ti have no other option except to either run 8GB (which is not enough) or 12GB (which will make the 4070 and 4070 Ti less enticing due to their higher prices. Nvidia is making it obvious they simply do not care about gamers anymore. If they are making so much on the $B they receive from their datacenter and supercomputer GPU sales, why do they completely shaft their gamers? I could not find a single RTX 30 series card that was worth my money for the past 3 years. I haven't found a 40 series card that's worth it either. Simple as that. Even though one of my favorite hobbies is PC building and an equal hobby PC gaming. These devices simply do not bring anywhere near $1,000 worth of enjoyment to me. You could sell them for $250, $350, $450, and $550 (and have them actually capable of playing the latest AAA games WELL!) and I'd build a different PC with every one of them. Sell them for $799, $1199, $1599 and I won't buy a single one of them. Simple as that.

 

[Ksan]

Thank you for your input. I have no real world XP and can only parrot what I've read or watched on the internet. Feel free to tell me if my info is not correct. I am much more of a team red type, with the only Nvidia GPU I've owned being a 560 Ti. Also, from what I understand DLSS3 is considered fake frames (?) and Ray tracing at this point is more of a gimmick that something I should be looking at getting. Also, from what I've been seeing the Nvidia 4070 seems to not have enough V-ram to play upcoming AAA games. Now I am not saying any of that is fact, I am simply saying what I've been seeing others say and we all know it is hard to know the truth from rumor on the internet. I would love to get a 4070 TI with 16 gigs of v-ram though.

If I had the money, I would LOVE to buy a 4090 but it isn't going to be in the cards for me. the best I can do is going to be an $800 price tag and lower if I could get something nice, of course. Thank you very much for your info and it gives me a little more to think about.

 

[Ksan]

I just had a guy tell me that if I buy the RX 7900 XT my CPU will be 25% bottlenecked and I wouldn't see any more FPS than I would be getting with a RX 6800 XT. Do any of you guys know this to be true? Is a bottleneck something that would really hurt my gaming with that card and would be something that would force me to upgrade my current CPU? because I would have to change the Motherboard to replace to a better CPU and that is something I'm just not going to be able to afford to do. If this is true, I could only get the 7900 XT if I'm going to get a 4k monitor very soon and play in 4k There are way to many choices for an inexperienced person to have to make.

 

[IDProG]

I just had a guy tell me that if I buy the RX 7900 XT my CPU will be 25% bottlenecked and I wouldn't see any more FPS than I would be getting with a RX 6800 XT. Do any of you guys know this to be true? Is a bottleneck something that would really hurt my gaming with that card and would be something that would force me to upgrade my current CPU? because I would have to change the Motherboard to replace to a better CPU and that is something I'm just not going to be able to afford to do. If this is true, I could only get the 7900 XT if I'm going to get a 4k monitor very soon and play in 4k There are way to many choices for an inexperienced person to have to make.

That is absolute BS IMO. You will be fine if you are playing games at 4K.

By the way, you might need the extra 4GB of VRAM for next-gen games if you play at 4K.

As for your CPU, you might need to upgrade that in 1-2 years. For now, it is fine, but, since games are developed around consoles, 8C/16T CPUs are going to be necessary.

And lastly, you can say goodbye to your HDD (or even a SATA SSD), as you'll need a PCIe 3.0 SSD with 3000MB/s minimum speed and consistent sustained read speed. But again, that is only going to apply starting from 1-2 years from now.

 

[Ksan]

That is absolute BS IMO. You will be fine if you are playing games at 4K.

By the way, you might need the extra 4GB of VRAM for next-gen games if you play at 4K.

As for your CPU, you might need to upgrade that in 1-2 years. For now, it is fine, but, since games are developed around consoles, 8C/16T CPUs are going to be necessary.

And lastly, you can say goodbye to your HDD (or even a SATA SSD), as you'll need a PCIe 3.0 SSD with 3000MB/s minimum speed and consistent sustained read speed. But again, that is only going to apply starting from 1-2 years from now.

My monitor is a 1440 not a 4k he said that about the 1440, that is why i said if i buy the 7900 xt i will have to get a 4k monitor when i am able.

I can get by for a while with my CPU? and I will need to get another M.2 and ditch the HDD, ok, thanks. Will give me something to save up for, I guess i'm going to go ahead and buy the 7900 XT