i know this is old, but seems nobody here has ever even used any of their products and just makes assumptions... and this is for anyone who happens to come across this. no <Mod Edit> there are <Mod Edit> chinese brands, but literally everything comes from china... pretty much... that's why you use paypal or something with buyer protection, with even 3rd party sellers on amazon, etc... so you're covered. and i have actually used 4 sticks of their ram for years, and it has been the most stable ram i've ever used. never had a single problem, AND it is BY FAR the lowest profile, really possible. the memory ic's and the pins are it as far as height, nearly half the height of all my other ddr3, that don't have a giant "heat sink" on them just looking pretty and getting in the way. this is my only experience with them, but they are definitely not just a straight up scam. these came in a "custom" dell 7010 i got years ago. and after being ran basically 24/7, gamed with, 3d rendering, everything... and now are basically my go to test ram, unless i want to overclock. never tried overclocking these, just run them at the initial setting. i don't think i ever really even got into my dell bios, other than maybe once or twice. but anyway, they do work very well. all 4 8gb sticks still run perfectly fine. they had some listed on amazon that even looked really nice. black pcb's and all just like everyone else, i mean i think all ram is pretty much made by like 3 or 4 manufacturers anyway. just maybe better binned parts or something. i would try them again if i just needed a normal pc for everyday stuff, or if i need some for testing on other platforms. i only have one ddr5 system, and a bunch of ddr3 stuff. the ad was for ddr3, but i wouldn't hesitate trying theirs if i found some for a good price.