Any final suggestions?

[justjohn5]

I am going to order my parts in around 1 week. I just want to make sure everything is compatible. Here is my build:


i5 2500k - $219.99
2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1333Mhz - $69.99
GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 - $124.99
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB - $319.99
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $64.99
XFX Core Edition PRO850W - $119.99
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 - $59.99
DVD Burner - ~$20
Windows 7 - $99.99

The price comes to $1146.41 after shipping costs but before MIRs.

I am a little worried about the case being to small for my graphics card. Will it fit?
I also would like to sli some day and I am worried if TWO can fit in the case.
I really do not want to spend any more money because I went over my budget a little as well.
If there are any suggested changes that can save some money please share them. I do not want to downgrade my graphics card though.

Any last thoughts and comments before I order next week?
Also am I missing anything?

 

[Why_Me]

That 570 will fit just fine in that case.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA $54.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.689147 $169.98 save: $35.00
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER $29.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Internal-HD103SJ/dp/B002MQC0P8/ref=sr_1_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1311298228&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ

 

[justjohn5]

I wont be buying from amazon any time soon. Had a really large problem with them...

And is the cooler master hyper 212 needed? I mean I will not be overclocking right away.. maybe a year after I buy the parts. I still want to go with the unlocked version because I will be overclocking. Can I just buy the fan some other time? I really do not want to be spending any more for my build.

Oh and are all of these parts compatible with each other?

 

[geofelt]

Looks good, but I have a few suggestions:

Get an aftermarket cooler up front. It will keep your cpu cooler and quieter, and you can oc easier, and to higher levels.
It is a pain to take a working pc apart to install one later. It need not be expensive, look at the XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283 for $30:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

The motherboard is a Micro-atx. If you ever want a second card for sli, it will be next to the first card and will run hot.
Your plan on a single great card is a good one. If you ever need more, just sell it, and get the next best thing. 28nm based graphics cards might be out at the end of the year. They will run cooler, and be cheaper to produce. I expect them to be a more logical upgrade than sli.

A less expensive quality psu might be the Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W for $60; it will power anything up to a GTX 580, perhaps even a GTX590.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044

You should not have a problem with a GTX570 fitting the case.
Two would fit, subject to the heat issue. But, then you would have to pay more up front for a stronger ps . I don't know if the xfx850 would be enough.

I do not much like the msi type of aftermarket cooler. It may be good at getting heat off of the gpu die, and looks good in an open test bed. But in a case, it just dumps it back into the case where case cooling has to deal with it. The result is higher temperatures for both the cpu and gpu.
I prefer the dual slot direct exhaust cooler better. Here is an EVGA GTX570 superclocked which costs less and has a higher core clock.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595

You might look at the Antec 300 illusion model. The price is the same after shipping, but it has better cooling with extra fans included:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

 

[justjohn5]

Ok well I do not think I will want to stick with that motherboard.
I want a motherboard where one graphics card is on top and the other can be placed under it. Or vice-versa. Hopefully whatever motherboard you recommend, will cost around the same price or less than the one I have listed.

And I do not want to buy an EVGA gtx570. I heard from a lot of people that they do not live long and many are faulty.
I would rather just stick with MSI, they have always been trustworthy.

 

[geofelt]

Ok well I do not think I will want to stick with that motherboard.
I want a motherboard where one graphics card is on top and the other can be placed under it. Or vice-versa. Hopefully whatever motherboard you recommend, will cost around the same price or less than the one I have listed.

And I do not want to buy an EVGA gtx570. I heard from a lot of people that they do not live long and many are faulty.
I would rather just stick with MSI, they have always been trustworthy.

A micro-ATX motherboard has 4 expansion slots. If you install two typical high end dual slot graphics cards, they must necessarily be next to each other. That will cause a cooling issue for the top card. You don't want that. Either get a full ATX motherboard which has 7 expansion slots and is larger, or plan in always using a single great card(my preference)
Your case can hold either size motherboard. As to a graphics card fitting, it is the length of the card that matters. I think all of the cards are 10.5" in length which should not be an issue, for either one or two cards. Some of the very high end dual gpu cards can approach 12" in length.

Anecdotal experience, I have never had an issue with a EVGA card. Their support is good, and the unit I referenced has a lifetime warranty. I think the msi units are 2-3 years.

 

[aznshinobi]

^+1

If you had a problem with Amazon did you verify the product was indeed shipped by Amazon? Since not all companies are fulfilled by Amazon and the company may not be Amazon who is shipping it. Usually they do honor the sales (the company) however it doesn't mean that all of them do.

 

[justjohn5]

A micro-ATX motherboard has 4 expansion slots. If you install two typical high end dual slot graphics cards, they must necessarily be next to each other. That will cause a cooling issue for the top card. You don't want that. Either get a full ATX motherboard which has 7 expansion slots and is larger, or plan in always using a single great card(my preference)
Your case can hold either size motherboard. As to a graphics card fitting, it is the length of the card that matters. I think all of the cards are 10.5" in length which should not be an issue, for either one or two cards. Some of the very high end dual gpu cards can approach 12" in length.

Anecdotal experience, I have never had an issue with a EVGA card. Their support is good, and the unit I referenced has a lifetime warranty. I think the msi units are 2-3 years.

Wait now I am really confused. When you say "If you install two typical high end dual slot graphics cards, they must necessarily be next to each other" does that mean they are next to each other side by side, or one above the other?

And is my gtx 570 a dual slot graphics card? I checked other threads and the msi gtx 570 should fit without a problem.
And I do want to go sli in the future with the gtx 570 unless the newer graphics cards are better and cheaper.
If I go sli which motherboard is recommended?

 

[geofelt]

Wait now I am really confused. When you say "If you install two typical high end dual slot graphics cards, they must necessarily be next to each other" does that mean they are next to each other side by side, or one above the other?

And is my gtx 570 a dual slot graphics card? I checked other threads and the msi gtx 570 should fit without a problem.
And I do want to go sli in the future with the gtx 570 unless the newer graphics cards are better and cheaper.
If I go sli which motherboard is recommended?

The slots in a motherboard are parallel to each other. If the motherboard is normally mounted vertically, the slots will be one, above the other.
A single graphics card will usually be mounted at the top, closest to the cpu. There is usually a x1 or other throw away pci slot underneath it to allow the installation of higher powered graphics cards that need two slots space to install. The second graphics card will be mounted next to the first on a 4 slot(m-atx) motherboard. The second card will obscure the intake fan of the first(top) card, causing the top card to run hotter.

If you get a full atx motherboard, the second slot will be located more distant from the first so there will be less of a cooling issue.

Your msi GTX570 is a dual slot card in that it occupies two slots. That is not unusual.
Here, I think is your card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127582
Note that the exhaust area is mostly obscured by the MSI logo, so there is not much vent area. Most of the heat will remain in the case until the case fans can get rid of it.

Here is an example of a similar GTX570 with a double slot cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1nr0np7gh52pi
Note how much bigger the exhaust area is. Most of the heat will be expellled directly out the back of the case.

Performance with either card will be similar, but the edge would be to the EVGA superclocked unit because of the higher core clock. An advantage of a factory overclocked card is that the card and oc is warrantied by the manufacturer.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

That 570 will fit just fine in that case.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA $54.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.689147 $169.98 save: $35.00
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER $29.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Internal-HD103SJ/dp/B002MQC0P8/ref=sr_1_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1311298228&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ

for 55$ you can get the zalman z9 plus- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235027&Tpk=zalman%20z9%20plus it is regularly a 70$ case. +1 to that combo

 

[justjohn5]

Ok I will make the switch to the full atx. Does it cost a lot more than the micro?
And about the link to EVGA card.. if you read some of the feedback you get somewhat scared of buying it.
I would rather just go with the msi. It has two case fans which should get rid of the heat rather quickly.
The EVGA only has one fan.

 

[geofelt]

Ok I will make the switch to the full atx. Does it cost a lot more than the micro?
And about the link to EVGA card.. if you read some of the feedback you get somewhat scared of buying it.
I would rather just go with the msi. It has two case fans which should get rid of the heat rather quickly.
The EVGA only has one fan.

Full ATX will not usually cost more than Micro-ATX. Sounds like a better choice to me.

 

[justjohn5]

Can you find me a link? Im searching on newegg but Im not tech savvy and I don't really know the differences between any of them haha.
Atleast you cleared most of it out for me. Thanks man.
If you could find that link it would be even better lol.