Any "gotcha's" swapping a i5-2500k for a Xeon E3-1270 v1?

[scottfree1_01]

I'm SICK of trying to oc with Win10, it's so frickin touchy, and once you think you've got it running you're lucky to survive a reboot without having to start from scratch.

So I can swap my 2500k @ pretty much a wash $$ for a Xeon e3-1270 v1, essentially a i7-2600 with ecc mem option. I'm thinking it should just drop in, reset to defaults, no fuss, no muss, and no oc'ing headaches, but it will still be a real solid rig.

I've got caught out on doing things like this in the past, and would rather ask if anyone sees a deal killer before I hit the buy button.. Here's the rest of my parts & pieces it would be paired with..

EVGA Z68 SLI Mobo (130-SB-E685-KR)
Radeon R7 260X
Visiontek Pci-e ssd
16gb 4x4 Crucial Balistix Sport 1600

 

[Deleted member 217926]

As long as you are overclocking in BIOS like you should be the version of Windows you use is irrelevant.

 

[scottfree1_01]

Well 1st starting with the win 10 uefi bootloader if it ain't happy it will stop you oc'ing before you get started. And regardless of oc'ing win 10 has been WAY more finicky for me than win 7, I've had win 10 fall apart for no obvious reason on multiple occasions, and oc'ing freezes/f'ups are just asking win10 to throw a fit..

 

[thor220]

As long as you are overclocking in BIOS like you should be the version of Windows you use is irrelevant.

Actually I can echo his concern. Windows 10 is very picky with an Overclock.

According to EVGA's website

http://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/legacy/

your motherboard does not support xeon processors.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Haven't seen a difference with my P67/2600K setup. Chip has been at 4.5Ghz since January 2011. Windows 10 made no difference just like it shouldn't have.

 

[scottfree1_01]

"SUGGESTED CPU"

My understanding is while they may not "support" them, that means they don't test them, and don't call us if you have a problem, not that they are incompatible. And the xeon is actually new with war. the seller says no problem it should work fine, send it back if it doesn't.

 

[scottfree1_01]

And heck if you guy's have the secret sauce to get a stable oc let's here it, cause I'm missing something, 4.4 is my best effort, but there seems to be trips @ 3.8 & 4.2 that I only make it past with blind, and seemingly unrepeatable, trial and error..

 

[thor220]

"SUGGESTED CPU"

My understanding is while they may not "support" them, that means they don't test them, and don't call us if you have a problem, not that they are incompatible. And the xeon is actually new with war. the seller says no problem it should work fine, send it back if it doesn't.

That only applies to memory, as there are far too many brands / models to test. CPUs, on the other hand, are few. If the CPU isn't on the support list there's a very good chance that the motherboard won't accept it seeing as motherboards need an update to recognize a CPU. In addition, no other xeon is even on the support list. It's fairly safe to assume they never intended a xeon to be put in that motherboard.

I hope that last sentence wasn't what I think it was. As an ebay seller, I feel I should inform you that covering the cost of shipping because you bought a CPU knowing before hand might not even work in your rig is wrong. It's not the seller's responsibility to cover the costs of the buyer's stupidity.

 

[scottfree1_01]

"SUGGESTED CPU"

My understanding is while they may not "support" them, that means they don't test them, and don't call us if you have a problem, not that they are incompatible. And the xeon is actually new with war. the seller says no problem it should work fine, send it back if it doesn't.

That only applies to memory, as there are far too many brands / models to test. CPUs, on the other hand, are few. If the CPU isn't on the support list there's a very good chance that the motherboard won't accept it seeing as motherboards need an update to recognize a CPU. In addition, no other xeon is even on the support list. It's fairly safe to assume they never intended a xeon to be put in that motherboard.

I hope that last sentence wasn't what I think it was. As an ebay seller, I feel I should inform you that covering the cost of shipping because you bought a CPU knowing before hand might not even work in your rig is wrong. It's not the seller's responsibility to cover the costs of the buyer's stupidity.

This is not off ebay, it's from a server supplier

SR00N INTEL Xeon Quad Core E3 1270 3.4GHz 8MB Smart Cache 5.0GT S DMI Socket LGA 1155 Processor. New Bulk Pack
Brands: Intel
Product Condition: New Bulk Pack
Warranty provided: 30 Days
GUARANTEE
Satisfaction Guaranteed

$112.00 free shipping

Worst case I can pick up a different board and still have less into it than a i7-2600 alone..

 

[scottfree1_01]

Actually don't even have to buy a board, have a biostar tz77a (xeon is listed) that I f'd up by over tightening the cooler killing 3/4 ram slot. I need to ts that hopefully removing CoolerZilla will make it a 16gb dual channel mobo again vs 8gb single..

 

[scottfree1_01]

I may stick with this, I've got it to 4k, it may be as simple as More Voltage! Bumped to 1.35 @ 4k which seems high? But it's running, slowly getting faster..

 

[scottfree1_01]

I don't get it, 4k pretty mild oc, 1.34v temps between 43/46 and maybe 4/5 mins of stress win 10 gives up with a "whea" So now I've really pumped the v to 1.4 it's idling 34/40 and now time to crash again, sigh..

 

[thor220]

I don't get it, 4k pretty mild oc, 1.34v temps between 43/46 and maybe 4/5 mins of stress win 10 gives up with a "whea" So now I've really pumped the v to 1.4 it's idling 34/40 and now time to crash again, sigh..

Usually a mild overclock like that should be easy on your processor. Without extensive testing, it could be the motherboard, PSU, or CPU that's holding the overclock back. Could be that you just lost the silicon lottery. It could also be that your PSU isn't doing a good job regulating voltage. It could also be the same for your motherboard. Short of going out and buying some testing equipment, you may have to settle for what you have.

 

[gokitty199]

umm 1.4 volts to hit 4ghz? something is not right there. also your version of windows/any OS should not conflict with your ability to overclock. but that should be no problem reaching those speeds with your cpu. out of curiosity what is your power supply?

 

[scottfree1_01]

The ps is "SilverStone SST-ST60F 600W ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Modular Active". Solid mid-level unit, the psu calcs say I need aprox. 430w for my setup so there should be some headroom there..

 

[scottfree1_01]

It looks like the issue is win10, not sure if it's just the clean install or moving from pro to enterprise, but I'm running @ 4.5mhz with 1.36v now, seemingly stable. haven't got all stuff installed to stress it yet, so we'll see how stable, but the previous install would crash before the bootloader even displayed the os selection with similar settings, where this is at least stable enough to get a 8200 cpu passmark..

 

[thor220]

Yeah that power supply is a good unit.

 

[scottfree1_01]

This install seem much more stable, 5 min at full load/4500mhz no problem, I just reapplied my thermal paste and am gonna give it some time to setup before see what it can do really backed off to 4200mhz temps 38-42c 25% load and 5m @ full load getting 53/54c, which seems about right..