Any Xeon E5 1650 V3 Users out there? Need to know temperatures and Voltages you are seeing

[PeterZ640]

Ideally like to know if my 48-50C temperature is too high in idle and what Voltage is showing
I am seeing 1.462V to 1.474V idling.
Note this chip max voltage is 1.3V!

Particularly interested if you are using a SuperMicro X10SRA-O or any SM board.

Thanks

 

[TechyInAZ]

I don't have a Xeon 1650, but that is way to high of a voltage. Something is wrong with that motherboard.

First, set your motherboard's BIOS to default settings, then update the BIOS.

 

[GhislainG]

I don't have one either, but how are you checking the voltage? Intel XTU or a SM utility? Is the idle temperature observed once the OS is loaded or in the BIOS which isn't really idle?

 

[PeterZ640]

I don't have a Xeon 1650, but that is way to high of a voltage. Something is wrong with that motherboard.

First, set your motherboard's BIOS to default settings, then update the BIOS.

Set to default, no change, got this before even loading the OS
Got the latest Bios from SM , go them to verify it.

Then They thought it might be the Intel ME firmware not binding properly [and suggested it could cause spurious and inaccurate temp and voltage reading???] they sent me some code, re updated the bios and ME firmware this weekend - shows latest bios and latest ME firmware. BUT No change on temps or Voltage!!! 🙁
Hence want to know what others get on an E5 1650 V3

 

[PeterZ640]

I don't have one either, but how are you checking the voltage? Intel XTU or a SM utility? Is the idle temperature observed once the OS is loaded or in the BIOS which isn't really idle?

The voltage is from the Bios. Its the only place I can see it. And there is no facility to turn it down.
What is Intel XTU ?? Please I want something non-destructive, that will show me all the cores and all the core temps and voltages.

When you say isn't really idle in the BIOS, what do you mean there is nothing else happening ???... is it not in idle mode in the BiOS??
Please explain

 

[GhislainG]

While in the BIOS, none of the power saving features implemented in the OS are active; therefore it's normal for the CPU to be hotter. Run an OS and check with Intel XTU: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU- It will hopefully allow you to see the CPU core voltage and all core temperatures (click the little blue icon below the Save button and check all system monitors).

 

[PeterZ640]

While in the BIOS, none of the power saving features implemented in the OS are active; therefore it's normal for the CPU to be hotter. Run an OS and check with Intel XTU: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU- It will hopefully allow you to see the CPU core voltage and all core temperatures (click the little blue icon below the Save button and check all system monitors).

Thanks so much sounds like just what I need
and the education lesson too
definitely need that lol - very much appreciated

 

[PeterZ640]

Oh just noticed its only for I Core 6th Generation processors not Xeons 🙁
Dam looked totally perfect for what I wanted 🙁 🙁

 

[GhislainG]

I'm surprised it won't work with your motherboard; it works on an HP Z440: https://communities.intel.com/message/368339#368339 Overclocking is not the goal, but it should be able to monitor the CPU temperature, etc. Since you have a server motherboard, doesn't SM SSM and IPMIView work?

 

[PeterZ640]

Hi
cos I am a novice, I bought the MB X10SRA- O, that stripped out the IPMI and BMC because I didnt think I would need it. The - F variant has IPMI etc.
Not sure what SM SM is , bit it sounds like a server management product, which all seem to rely on one having IPMI or BMC.

As for Intel XTU not working, I didnt try it but stopped when I saw it was for iCore 6th gen.
I will speak to the guy at Intel, who is trying to resolve this for me, and see if he thinks it could harm my Bios or OS.
Bluntly so desperate to resolve this I would give it a go! But have to be sure I do t compromise any code that could stop SM coming up with a solution.
Mind you by Wednesday might as well try anything as the MB and CPU will be going back! Really do not want to do that - as apart from the heat and overvoltage it looks like a perfect solution for me 🙁
Thanks for your help.

I just cant beleive these processors are so rare.

 

[GhislainG]

I see; you determined that XTU doesn't work, but you haven't even tried it. Intel XTU can't harm anything if you only use it to monitor the system. Other functions can't be used until you click "I agree"; don't use Manual Tuning and you won't have issues.

 

[PeterZ640]

I see; you determined that XTU doesn't work, but you haven't even tried it. Intel XTU can't harm anything if you only use it to monitor the system. Other functions can't be used until you click "I agree"; don't use Manual Tuning and you won't have issues.

I didnt determine it doesnt work. I just read the notes saying it was only for iCore 6th Generation cpus, and my supplier said dont use that.
I tried to load it just now and it wont load without ticking "I agree".
Is there a second "I agree before selecting manual tuning" as there seems to be no way of loading it without accepting the agree part.?

 

[PeterZ640]

OK under the guidance of an Intel Support Engineer I ran the Intel CPU Diagnostic tool.
Through out all the test I was consistantly 51 to 64C UNDER the max. Temp. Until I got tomthe CPU Load section where I Was still 43 to 49C UNDER the max cpu temperature (well that was the result )
It passed everything but then failed the IMC section, something about could not determine how much memory??
In SMs Bios one can clearly see the right slots are populated, and the correct amount of ram and ram sticks are shown. It also nearly got the speed right and said it was 2134mhz (actually its 2,133) . But close enough.
Sadly there is no clock speed shown.
I did run CPU-Z and it showed voltage of 0.7V!
Went back and looked and SM is showing 1.472 V in the Bios??

 

[GhislainG]

I see; you determined that XTU doesn't work, but you haven't even tried it. Intel XTU can't harm anything if you only use it to monitor the system. Other functions can't be used until you click "I agree"; don't use Manual Tuning and you won't have issues.

I didnt determine it doesnt work. I just read the notes saying it was only for iCore 6th Generation cpus, and my supplier said dont use that.
I tried to load it just now and it wont load without ticking "I agree".
Is there a second "I agree before selecting manual tuning" as there seems to be no way of loading it without accepting the agree part.?

You need to agree the first time you launch XTU, but Manual Tuning is available only once the software is running. The first agree does not change anything. You are way too cautious simply because you don't understand what XTU can do for you.

 

[PeterZ640]

I see; you determined that XTU doesn't work, but you haven't even tried it. Intel XTU can't harm anything if you only use it to monitor the system. Other functions can't be used until you click "I agree"; don't use Manual Tuning and you won't have issues.

I didnt determine it doesnt work. I just read the notes saying it was only for iCore 6th Generation cpus, and my supplier said dont use that.
I tried to load it just now and it wont load without ticking "I agree".
Is there a second "I agree before selecting manual tuning" as there seems to be no way of loading it without accepting the agree part.?

You need to agree the first time you launch XTU, but Manual Tuning is available only once the software is running. The first agree does not change anything. You are way too cautious simply because you don't understand what XTU can do for you.

Thanks
Yes I am uber cautious, as this is the first pc I have built with zero knowledge. It actually went perfectly, except this over voltage thing that tier 3 Intel support and tier 3 SM support cant even solve. So in the meantime, I Have to keep the workstation running; so if they send me some more code to run or another update to do , its operational.
Hope you can understand that.
Add the UEFI complextity running Intel 750s makes it a struggle for someone, who had never heard of UEFI 2 weeks ago - you betch I am cautious.
E.g they say ok heres some new firmware, load this and then flash the Bios. Yep done that so should be a breeze. But they forgot to tell me the second time its different. You have to resset the Boot mode from UEFI to legacy, look up the disc in the IO section and the PCIe section and change that from EFI back to legacy, and then change the boot order and disable the Intel 750, and physically undo the Sata data cables to the 2 Samsung 85O Evos, then and only then, will it boot from the Legacy USB stick with the Bios on it!
Easy now, but sure would have helped if they told me.
I am getting the feeling a few of them are unaware of some of the oddities of running PCIe NVMe OS drives when it comes to "doing stuff to the system". Sure operationslly now I know its no big thing.

 

[PeterZ640]

I see; you determined that XTU doesn't work, but you haven't even tried it. Intel XTU can't harm anything if you only use it to monitor the system. Other functions can't be used until you click "I agree"; don't use Manual Tuning and you won't have issues.

I didnt determine it doesnt work. I just read the notes saying it was only for iCore 6th Generation cpus, and my supplier said dont use that.
I tried to load it just now and it wont load without ticking "I agree".
Is there a second "I agree before selecting manual tuning" as there seems to be no way of loading it without accepting the agree part.?

You need to agree the first time you launch XTU, but Manual Tuning is available only once the software is running. The first agree does not change anything. You are way too cautious simply because you don't understand what XTU can do for you.

Thanks
Yes I am uber cautious, as this is the first pc I have built with zero knowledge. It actually went perfectly, except this over voltage thing that tier 3 Intel support and tier 3 SM support cant even solve. So in the meantime, I Have to keep the workstation running; so if they send me some more code to run or another update to do , its operational.
Hope you can understand that.
Add the UEFI complextity running Intel 750s makes it a struggle for someone, who had never heard of UEFI 2 weeks ago - you betch I am cautious.
E.g they say ok heres some new firmware, load this and then flash the Bios. Yep done that so should be a breeze. But they forgot to tell me the second time its different. You have to resset the Boot mode from UEFI to legacy, look up the disc in the IO section and the PCIe section and change that from EFI back to legacy, and then change the boot order and disable the Intel 750, and physically undo the Sata data cables to the 2 Samsung 85O Evos, then and only then, will it boot from the Legacy USB stick with the Bios on it!
Easy now, but sure would have helped if they told me.
I am getting the feeling a few of them are unaware of some of the oddities of running PCIe NVMe OS drives when it comes to "doing stuff to the system". Sure operationslly now I know its no big thing.

 

[GhislainG]

Use XTU to check the CPU voltage and temperatures; nothing else.

 

[PeterZ640]

Well I risked it
Strangly it says this platform fully supports overclocking!!!
I can see cpu utilisation 2% , memory utilisation 2021 MB, package temp of 43C ( I assume thats the CPU ), thermal throttleing 0%, processor cache frequency 2.00GHz , active core count 1
Plus all the details on cpu , mb, gpu, ram,
BUT No details on Voltage!!!
Looks like I have to look at the panel that says "Basic Tuning " or Advanced Tuning" ...... And these make you "agree "

I assume if I do not touch anything i.e dont adjust anything it wont alter the system.?

 

[GhislainG]

Did you click the little blue icon below the Save button and check Select All?

 

[PeterZ640]

I think this is the one you meant the little spanner that then gives a nice overview Monitor of all votlages and temps by individual core - perfection!! :

 

[PeterZ640]

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah159/Submariner5DIII/Supermicro%20Workstation/image_zpsctvimeeu.jpeg~original

Well CPU-Z says its voltage is 0.738V not as per the Bios 1.474V!

 

[PeterZ640]

Thanks to your encouragement I now have a great Monitor screen....
Like this

For me this shows everything, and gives me comfort the cpu was not being fried , as this shows 0.738 V and its aintels monitor, plus looking at the detail here they must know how to accurately read their own cpu's temps and voltages? Surely !

Looking at these readings would you agree, I do not have an actual Overvoltage or Overheating problem.

With core temps of 33C to 36C, thats not too bad having been on for 2 hours in a room temp of 25C. ? What domyou think plus the Voltage is only 0.738V a lot better than 1.474V ... no?

I think I can relax now.

Many thanks, just one thing turning it off I clicked the top right corner cross the screen went but I noticed one had to sort of eject it like one does a USB stick. I guess it was there doing a monitor job. Well it went and came back when I loaded it so seems to work like that.
Looks a cool product , but the full advance tuning screen was seriously scary
Hell could one do a lot of damage in there.

Guess I Will find out tomorrow why the cpu failed its Intel CPU diagnositcs.test.
When the Intel engineer replies an the results.

 

[PeterZ640]

Can you make me totally relaxed ref that XTU program.
When I looked around I was very careful not to touch anything . I beleive one has to save either an individual item or do a global save for all your changes.

I am Very sure I never changed anthing and positive I did not save any changes.

But for good measure I did try and click the greyed out "Discard" button. ( I am hoping it was greyed out, because there were no changes made, to discard).

I also looked very carefully, line by line at the right panel - were it shows the default settings and the proposed setting . Making sure no proposed ones were different, and then got out cleanly to the Systems Monitor screen ( and didnt ever touch the illuminated "Save" button.
do you agree looking at this screen, that nothing was changed.?

i.e. All settings are the same, and the "Save" Button is illuminated waiting to be accepted, and the "Discard" button is greyed out - as there were no changes to discard.

Yeah you can tell ...mthat screen did worry me.
Stuff there I cant even spell let alone know what they do

 

[GhislainG]

You're that worried, but you built a server. The process must have been somewhat painful.

 

[PeterZ640]

You're that worried, but you built a server. The process must have been somewhat painful.

Yes it was - would have been worth it if aimdidnt have problems with some of the stuff.
The end result would have been perfect apart from this.
Plus I can now maintain and upgrade it.in the future.