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Nearly every shut down my PC does a hard shut down and requires a discharge/cooldown period before it can be restarted, this cooldown takes usually 2 or so hours.
This happened a few times before but previously I thought it was a case grounding issue so electric tapes all loose connectors and covered and re organized everything. That did not seem to fix the issue but as I never turn of the PC the issue never fully bothered be.
This became a prominent issue a few days ago where the PC started freezing up randomly and become unresponsive but not BSOD. At this point I would need to shut down by holding the power button. Upon the forced shutdown the pc would make the sound/act like a regular slow shut down but then it would all just stop and go dark (ie. rgb instantly off, fans, hard drives, aio water pump, everything). Usually pressing this method would slowly power things down but this just cuts away like the power was pulled from the plug, which it wasn't and is connected to PSU.
Issue is when pressing the button to restart the system there is reaction from the computer or peripherals. Only this is the WiFi light on the back of the motherboard lights up and nothing else. Previously I was able to pass this by manually replugging the AC cable to the PC and using the discharge button as well as resetting the CMOS on my PC but this now stopped working. The only way to get the computer to turn back on is by pulling the cable from the PC and then waiting for a few hours for it to discharge/cooldown and then the the PC will curt on may it be the power button on the mobo, shorting the pins or the front panel button. However the next freeze or restart the same thing will happen once again, and another 2 hours minimum wait. And then upon plugging in the motherboard LED (power, discharge, easy OC buttons) if they flash the system will book, if not then another 2 hour wait.
At this point I am not sure what is going on and I already used multimeter to check for bad PSu cables and even replaced some that I couldn't get a good read on. At this point really stumped and nowhere online (that I could find) see similar symptoms.
Any advice or tips what is happening? Tried the following
-I personally have a feeling maybe the motherboard but placed it into another system and ran without issue.
-I have tried XMP disabled all OC removed from everything and 1 stick of ram as well.
-Confirmed the RAM works
-Replaced cmos battery 4 times
-Reorganized what I could cable wise in the case
-Reinstalled drivers for GPU and reseated
-CPU and AIO reseat
-PSU worked fine from using it in another system
-Ran system in most basic settings and safe mode with only the necessary hardware and still same issue persists
-I have a system speaker in the case which isn't giving me any POST Beep codes
My thoughts is at this point might be some software incompatibility maybe causing this but even then I have never heard fo software messing with the turn on restriction.
My system:
4790K @4.5ghz
MSI MPower Z97 MAX AC Mobo
MSI Gaming Trio x 2080ti
gskill 2133 mhz DDR3 16gb
EVGA 1000W PS PSU
H100iV2 aio
Corsair c70 Case
4xn octua nfp12
2x noctua nfp14
2x Cougar 120mm fans
1x 2tb 850 pro ssd
2x 750gb intel 730 ssd
4x 8tb WD red
1x 5tb Toshiba x300
Update: After all the testing and everything have to RMA the board (which is out of warranty and MSI is refusing because 2 years after warranty expire). It was not a issue of VRM those were fine and nothign with cooling. Issue was the board was not grounded in the case because seems liek after make assemblies one of the pins/prongs on the back of the motherbaord either bent to much or broke off partially and was coming in contact with some stuff and that caused the grounding issue. Unfortunately as it was already bent to much and board so might have to re solder the weird broken pin and see if that fixes it. Until them I am keeping the case full open and nothing in contact with mobo and the computer is running ok ... for now. Ty for the help.
This happened a few times before but previously I thought it was a case grounding issue so electric tapes all loose connectors and covered and re organized everything. That did not seem to fix the issue but as I never turn of the PC the issue never fully bothered be.
This became a prominent issue a few days ago where the PC started freezing up randomly and become unresponsive but not BSOD. At this point I would need to shut down by holding the power button. Upon the forced shutdown the pc would make the sound/act like a regular slow shut down but then it would all just stop and go dark (ie. rgb instantly off, fans, hard drives, aio water pump, everything). Usually pressing this method would slowly power things down but this just cuts away like the power was pulled from the plug, which it wasn't and is connected to PSU.
Issue is when pressing the button to restart the system there is reaction from the computer or peripherals. Only this is the WiFi light on the back of the motherboard lights up and nothing else. Previously I was able to pass this by manually replugging the AC cable to the PC and using the discharge button as well as resetting the CMOS on my PC but this now stopped working. The only way to get the computer to turn back on is by pulling the cable from the PC and then waiting for a few hours for it to discharge/cooldown and then the the PC will curt on may it be the power button on the mobo, shorting the pins or the front panel button. However the next freeze or restart the same thing will happen once again, and another 2 hours minimum wait. And then upon plugging in the motherboard LED (power, discharge, easy OC buttons) if they flash the system will book, if not then another 2 hour wait.
At this point I am not sure what is going on and I already used multimeter to check for bad PSu cables and even replaced some that I couldn't get a good read on. At this point really stumped and nowhere online (that I could find) see similar symptoms.
Any advice or tips what is happening? Tried the following
-I personally have a feeling maybe the motherboard but placed it into another system and ran without issue.
-I have tried XMP disabled all OC removed from everything and 1 stick of ram as well.
-Confirmed the RAM works
-Replaced cmos battery 4 times
-Reorganized what I could cable wise in the case
-Reinstalled drivers for GPU and reseated
-CPU and AIO reseat
-PSU worked fine from using it in another system
-Ran system in most basic settings and safe mode with only the necessary hardware and still same issue persists
-I have a system speaker in the case which isn't giving me any POST Beep codes
My thoughts is at this point might be some software incompatibility maybe causing this but even then I have never heard fo software messing with the turn on restriction.
My system:
4790K @4.5ghz
MSI MPower Z97 MAX AC Mobo
MSI Gaming Trio x 2080ti
gskill 2133 mhz DDR3 16gb
EVGA 1000W PS PSU
H100iV2 aio
Corsair c70 Case
4xn octua nfp12
2x noctua nfp14
2x Cougar 120mm fans
1x 2tb 850 pro ssd
2x 750gb intel 730 ssd
4x 8tb WD red
1x 5tb Toshiba x300
Update: After all the testing and everything have to RMA the board (which is out of warranty and MSI is refusing because 2 years after warranty expire). It was not a issue of VRM those were fine and nothign with cooling. Issue was the board was not grounded in the case because seems liek after make assemblies one of the pins/prongs on the back of the motherbaord either bent to much or broke off partially and was coming in contact with some stuff and that caused the grounding issue. Unfortunately as it was already bent to much and board so might have to re solder the weird broken pin and see if that fixes it. Until them I am keeping the case full open and nothing in contact with mobo and the computer is running ok ... for now. Ty for the help.
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