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Anything better than this for casual medium to high setting gaming for the same price or lower? No higher please!

[PCPartPicker part list](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GD93jX) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GD93jX/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i34130) | £78.79 @ Aria PC
**Motherboard** | [MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97pcmate) | £64.74 @ Aria PC
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9b) | £62.39 @ Aria PC
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | £35.94 @ Aria PC
**Video Card** | [Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003662l) | £89.99 @ Amazon UK
**Case** | [BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/bitfenix-case-bfccom100kkws1rp) | £33.59 @ Aria PC
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100w10500kr) | £31.15 @ Aria PC
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [TP-Link TL-WN722N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn722n) | £8.39 @ Aria PC
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | £404.98
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-07 21:50 GMT+0000 |
 
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I made a few tweaks to it and here is what i came up with

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£78.79 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£38.16 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.69 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (£119.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX...
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Would you suggest the fx 6300 instead? Tbh I think it's gonna be more like a steam machine and skyrim and Minecraft ftb. I have a ps4 with far cry 4+ ac unity but the option to play even on medium settings would be nice for my PC. I can't afford an i5 though, that's my problem which is why I asked about the 6300 as it has 6 cores without hyper-threading

 
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I made a few tweaks to it and here is what i came up with

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£78.79 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£38.16 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.69 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (£119.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£31.15 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN722N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£8.39 @ Aria PC)
Total: £404.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-07 22:05 GMT+0000

Better GPU in it and a better brand of RAM in my mind. I changed the motherboard as you cannot overclock a i3 CPU at all so i changed it to a H81 chipset mainly to reduce the cost to off set the cost of the better GPU. Changeing the motherboard will have no effect on your build just some fan headers are in slightly diffenret spots is all.

The rest of yoru build looks great and hopefully you will find it to be a very good low end to mid end computer.

After notes: even though the i3-4130 is a dual core CPU it is with hyperthreading which bumps it up to 4 logical cores thus able to preform simular to but not really as much as a lower end i5.
 
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I'm an Intel fan, but an AMD 6 core should be fine. Make sure the motherboard you buy supports it.

The website of the motherboard manufacturer will list all CPU's and memory the board supports. All you need is the model number (and revision if listed). Use their info to select a CPU and compatible memory.
 
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Re: yumri suggestions:
I like the Z97 based motherboard to enable a future upgrade to a "K" cpu or 14nm broadwell upgrade.
If that is not a possibility, then H81 is OK.

G.skil is also good. 1333 speed will cost only 1% if you find some 1333 speed significantly cheaper.

FWIW

I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games. If you can go 240gb, you may never need a hard drive.
I don't.
I would defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.
Samsung EVO is a good choice.
Intel is OK too.
 
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If you stick with a lga1150 motherboard, there will not likely be an issue.
But, why bother?
Better to not waste your initial budget.
 
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Possible, but not likely.
Most games use only two cores. Games use fast cores, particularly sims, strategy and mmo games. The FX cores are slow. 6 or 8 of them is no great help.
Here is one series of tests. Note that the i3-4130 is faster than the i3-3220 in the report.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-9.html
 
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I would not. You are saving $20.
The Kingston has 22% negative(0 or 1 egg) reviews
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721107
Compare that to the Samsung evo at 6%
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Internal+SSDs-_-N82E16820147247&ds_e_ad_type=pla&gclid=CNT3kuT4gsMCFYtAMgod8UAAVw&gclsrc=aw.ds

If you are truly on a budget crunch, consider shopping used(not new) on Ebay from sellers with good feedback.
You can find good deals on parts, particularly graphics cards.
Many parts like ram have lifetime warranties.
 
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I'm a bit wary of eBay, is it really not a risk of it being broken or damaged?
 
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There is always a risk of buying anything online.
Ebay has several protections.
1. Paypal payment is quite secure.
If you do not get the product or if it is not as advertised, you have recourse.
It is a bit of a hassle to set up a paypal account. But, one benefit is that no retailer ever has your credit card number.
2. Most good sellers will give you a no questions return guarantee for a week or two.
3. A regular seller values his reputation and feedback.
Look for a seller with top feedback. Perhaps look at the history of what he sells and particularly look at any bad feedback.

When I upgrade, I often sell my old parts on ebay. The buyers will usually bid only to a fair price.
Sometimes I am disappointed, sometimes not.

Do your research as to what is a fair value.
Look for the item in used condition and then select completed auctions. In green, you will see what the item actually sold for.
Be sure to understand where the item is shipping from and what the shipping charges will be.

 
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