Apple’s 'Slide-to-Unlock' Patent Invalid, Says Top German Court

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codo

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I only hope I live long enough to see apple go out of business. Or at least return to their state of being relatively unheard of by the general public
 

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Typo is second last paragraph: the US Patent Office which has a weak to...

Should be week. A weak effort. Sorry, that was weak. Well, see you in a week!
 

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As stated in the article, the real problem is the patent office. Why are they throwing patents around for inventions already invented?

Sickening.
 

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As stated in the article, the real problem is the patent office. Why are they throwing patents around for inventions already invented?

Sickening.

The answer to your question is MONEY.

If "inventors" knew their worthless patent will be rejected there won't be as many patent being filled which means that much less funds for the patent office.
 

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the patent office doesn't make money, they are one of those charity cases funded by the people, that's like saying the fire department makes money from every fire or cops get paid by every criminal they convict.
 

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the patent office doesn't make money, they are one of those charity cases funded by the people, that's like saying the fire department makes money from every fire or cops get paid by every criminal they convict.

The patent office is not funded by charity, it's funded by tax dollars coerced out of the population. They people can't chose not to fund the patent office, so as targetdrone correctly says, they have a big motivation to grant loads of patents to have a justification to demand more budget. It's in their interest to do that, so they do. The public is just forced to pay the bill.
 

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Is this crap still a thing ? The innovation of the "slide to unlock" that our grandmas had at their doors...

^ Most likely the reason the Swedish company didn't make a fuss over this in the first place. A simple, "obvious" idea based on previous ones. I mean, that's how I get into the shit-house at my family summer house.
As such some companies act on decent honour and respect towards others. So no patent claim.

Some companies obviously have less of that. Apple didn't even "invent" it and simply use the flawed system since dollares count for more than human decency as seen through their $-goggles.

At the risk of penalty of death, I'll buy Apple products...

...because I'm a hypocrite.
 

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the patent office doesn't make money, they are one of those charity cases funded by the people, that's like saying the fire department makes money from every fire or cops get paid by every criminal they convict.

Police Departments and District Attorney offices SO justify their budgets(and existence) based on the number not quality of arrests and convictions.

And in some areas the fire department will charge 10s of thousands of dollars to put out a fire or they will just let the house burn to the ground if the owner hasn't paid their monthly fire protection fee. It does happen, go search the interwebs for news articles on it.

 

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Police Departments and District Attorney offices SO justify their budgets(and existence) based on the number not quality of arrests and convictions.

And in some areas the fire department will charge 10s of thousands of dollars to put out a fire or they will just let the house burn to the ground if the owner hasn't paid their monthly fire protection fee. It does happen, go search the interwebs for news articles on it.

Good ideas FTW. Pay up or let it burn. Anything else would be red clothed Bolshevik Socialism. Subsidizing? That's for commies. Having society pay for single individuals' mistakes or lack there of regarding fire is evilution as fudge /(no) end sarcasm
 

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Police Departments and District Attorney offices SO justify their budgets(and existence) based on the number not quality of arrests and convictions.

And in some areas the fire department will charge 10s of thousands of dollars to put out a fire or they will just let the house burn to the ground if the owner hasn't paid their monthly fire protection fee. It does happen, go search the interwebs for news articles on it.

Good ideas FTW. Pay up or let it burn. Anything else would be red clothed Bolshevik Socialism. Subsidizing? That's for commies. Having society pay for single individuals' mistakes or lack there of regarding fire is evilution as fudge /(no) end sarcasm

Actually fire protection/fighting is one of those things that society needs to pay for(unlike so many other things).

A small barn fire could easily burn down an entire city. See Chicago or London for more details.
 

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Police Departments and District Attorney offices SO justify their budgets(and existence) based on the number not quality of arrests and convictions.

And in some areas the fire department will charge 10s of thousands of dollars to put out a fire or they will just let the house burn to the ground if the owner hasn't paid their monthly fire protection fee. It does happen, go search the interwebs for news articles on it.

Good ideas FTW. Pay up or let it burn. Anything else would be red clothed Bolshevik Socialism. Subsidizing? That's for commies. Having society pay for single individuals' mistakes or lack there of regarding fire is evilution as fudge /(no) end sarcasm

Actually fire protection/fighting is one of those things that society needs to pay for(unlike so many other things).

A small barn fire could easily burn down an entire city. See Chicago or London for more details.

As I said.

xxx...Sarcasm :)
 

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Well, that might explain why Android phones and especially those from Samsung looks more and more alike iPhones. From the abstract metal body, chamfered edges, bottom headphone jack to exactly copy of iPhone's True Tone flash, home button fingerprint reader and micro-SIM and nano-SIM.
 
Well, that might explain why Android phones and especially those from Samsung looks more and more alike iPhones. From the abstract metal body, chamfered edges, bottom headphone jack to exactly copy of iPhone's True Tone flash, home button fingerprint reader and micro-SIM and nano-SIM.
How many ways can you make a phone? Ohhh rounded edges, now one ever did that before(or right EVERYONE did it even in the 80s)? Bottom headphone jack's more than likely became a standard for docking stations that work with any device. Truetone flash. Its a damn led array(can you patent this for real?). Apple did not even come up with the damn name iPhone was a Cisco name and iPad was a Fujitsu name.

The real thing here is it is hard for an American company to loose in American court rooms against foreign companies. This has given them much success.
 

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The sad part is that the US patent office is worldwide regarded as "anything gets patented no matter what" and that stance hurts US businesses when in court outside US because those patent aren't regarded with the same level of confidence as many other country's counterparts are.
 

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Well, that might explain why Android phones and especially those from Samsung looks more and more alike iPhones. From the abstract metal body, chamfered edges, bottom headphone jack to exactly copy of iPhone's True Tone flash, home button fingerprint reader and micro-SIM and nano-SIM.
How many ways can you make a phone? Ohhh rounded edges, now one ever did that before(or right EVERYONE did it even in the 80s)? Bottom headphone jack's more than likely became a standard for docking stations that work with any device. Truetone flash. Its a damn led array(can you patent this for real?). Apple did not even come up with the damn name iPhone was a Cisco name and iPad was a Fujitsu name.

The real thing here is it is hard for an American company to loose in American court rooms against foreign companies. This has given them much success.
I saw a documentary on Steve Jobs a few years back that was made while he was in-between jobs at Next and "back" at crApple. IMHO, he was actually humble then (but that is beside the point). He outright stated in that documentary that crApple stole ideas from quite a few companies.

According to my understanding, if you read George Eastman's bio, he did exactly the same thing. Seems in the US, you get rewarded for stealing from your competitors.

BTW - I live in the US, and I have absolutely no respect for the USPTO. The rule changes it went through a few years back did virtually nothing except hurt the small inventor.

I almost would not be surprised if some company is trying to patent the "Smart Watch" when US patent laws specifically disallow patents on devices that have been in popular media. Think Dick Tracey in this case.
 

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Is this crap still a thing ? The innovation of the "slide to unlock" that our grandmas had at their doors...
Agreed. NONE of these 'slide to unlock' or 'use your thumb to unlock' patents should be allowed. Complete patents on complete software, okay.... not piecemeal software patents or patents on "Do X in Y way".
It's time that the international community made it clear: Piecemeal patents are verboten, permanently.
 
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