Apple iTV a Set-Top With Live, On-Demand Content?

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Before the iPhone, the carriers dictated to the phone manufacturers what phones would have, what carrier "goodies" (i.e. bloat) they would ship with, and what they would pay. The iPhone shattered that paradigm. Love or hate Apple, you do have a lot more choice in handsets because that business model was shattered.

There are fewer competitors in any given location for TV service. Plus you have the extra layer of content creators fogging up the picture. But if they can get either DirecTV or Dish to go along with them, like they did with AT&T getting an exclusive then they might be able to break TV service as well.
 
I bet this thing will look amazing as with all apple products but i dont think it will sell well because you can get a similar sized TV with the apple TV for a lot less.
 
Something needs to change. Cable TV operators were forced to make CableCARDs available to the general public without the cable box, but there are few compatible devices actually available to consumers for CableCARDs. So, the monopoly that CableCARD regulations were intended to break, still exists thanks to cable box manufacturers. I'll happily support Apple in destroying this monopoly.

[citation][nom]Ragnarock[/nom]I bet this thing will look amazing as with all apple products but i dont think it will sell well because you can get a similar sized TV with the apple TV for a lot less.[/citation]
The article isn't talking about a TV at all, rather a device like a cable box that integrates the features of the "Apple TV" device. It also doesn't mention pricing at all, outside of the "Apple TV" device.
 
[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]Um I can already do everything listed in the article with my current DVR box. What do I need iTV for? No matter...the iSheep will buy it.[/citation]

"iSheep" Yes, try and separate yourself from the crowd to make yourself feel higher up than others.

Like a little kid getting mad at another kid for "Liking the red sucker" instead of the blue.

Such a child. Grow up.
 
[citation][nom]scannall[/nom]Before the iPhone, the carriers dictated to the phone manufacturers what phones would have, what carrier "goodies" (i.e. bloat) they would ship with, and what they would pay. The iPhone shattered that paradigm. Love or hate Apple, you do have a lot more choice in handsets because that business model was shattered.There are fewer competitors in any given location for TV service. Plus you have the extra layer of content creators fogging up the picture. But if they can get either DirecTV or Dish to go along with them, like they did with AT&T getting an exclusive then they might be able to break TV service as well.[/citation]
You are correct, if you add "US" in front of the "carriers". This paradigm has been eliminated in most of the world a long time ago. People have been allowed to bring their own unlocked devices to GSM networks pretty much all over Europe and much of the rest of the world. Just now US is catching up with that, albeit at a very slow pace, given that CDMA networks are pretty much still dominating here, and if a network refuses to register an unlocked phone of their network, the customer is SOL. With GSM, once people realized they can take the card out of one phone and put it in another one, that paradigm ceased to exist. I would give credit to the SIM card system.
Even before Apple, for instance, I have never used a subsidized phone on AT&T. Preferred to buy it unlocked, got the SIM card from the cheapest phone you could get from the carrier and inserted in my unlocked Moto Razr. While on trips to Europe I just removed the card and inserted a locally prepaid one. [citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]Um I can already do everything listed in the article with my current DVR box. What do I need iTV for? No matter...the iSheep will buy it.[/citation]
Please, stop with the name-calling. Not cool. You can make your point without resorting to childish behavior.
 
[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]Um I can already do everything listed in the article with my current DVR box. What do I need iTV for? No matter...the iSheep will buy it.[/citation]

You can record an infinite number of shows as there's no limit to storage. You can also record as many simultaneous shows as you like since the shows aren't streamed to your local DVR for storage on the internal drive. "Recorded" shows are stored in the cloud and are streamed to you when you watch it. This way, shows being "recorded" don't suck up your bandwidth. No more "record up to 2 shows while watching a 3rd" like so many current services do.

That's two I could come up with based on the limited information available so far.
 
They can't use the name iTV, already been in use since before Apple even existed. ITV is a global TV company producing TV shows all over the world, how can Apple expect to ignore this? No hang on, it's apple, they'll just claim they invented the name.............
 
[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]You can record an infinite number of shows as there's no limit to storage. You can also record as many simultaneous shows as you like since the shows aren't streamed to your local DVR for storage on the internal drive. "Recorded" shows are stored in the cloud and are streamed to you when you watch it. This way, shows being "recorded" don't suck up your bandwidth. No more "record up to 2 shows while watching a 3rd" like so many current services do.That's two I could come up with based on the limited information available so far.[/citation]

The problem with this method is that all of the shows are then streamed to your digital box via your internet connection, and most internet providers now have bandwidth caps. Imagine streaming EVERY SHOW YOU WATCH. This leads to two possibilities:
1. the quality of these streamed shows will be poor in order to limit used bandwidth
2. more and more consumers will encounter the draconian bandwidth caps implemented by the majority of carriers in NA.
 
Not sure I understand where Apple is going with this approach, but I trust in them to make a solid product, like always. If they can revolutionize the TV industry like they have the phone, PC, digital music player, and digital sales industries, then I am set to make a killing on my shares!
 
Also, I am still hoping for an actual television set from Apple with Sharp technology. I have two SamSUCK sets that have the bad capacitor issue, and SamSUCK won't honor their crap product and fix it. My Sony set works beautifully (great products), but I really need to replace the two Suck sets. Probably Craigslist for a couple of hundred bucks.

An Apple set would likely be a SHARP aquos with Apple industrial design and badging, plus it's revolutionary new TV software. That is something I could dig. Sony and Sharp make really great TV sets.
 
[citation][nom]richarduk[/nom]They can't use the name iTV, already been in use since before Apple even existed. ITV is a global TV company producing TV shows all over the world, how can Apple expect to ignore this? No hang on, it's apple, they'll just claim they invented the name.............[/citation]

You are right that iTV is owned by someone else. This article is wrong, it should have been referred to as Apple TV. Look at the box it has an apple then the word TV.
 
[citation][nom]torque79[/nom]The problem with this method is that all of the shows are then streamed to your digital box via your internet connection, and most internet providers now have bandwidth caps. Imagine streaming EVERY SHOW YOU WATCH. This leads to two possibilities:1. the quality of these streamed shows will be poor in order to limit used bandwidth2. more and more consumers will encounter the draconian bandwidth caps implemented by the majority of carriers in NA.[/citation]
Your shows are already being streamed to your box over an internet connection. The cable companies are just not charging you for bandwidth used to stream their own content vs bandwidth used for your other internet activities, something that they are starting to get into trouble for.

How can a cable company say that you could use 500GB of TV streaming a month and not pay and then turn around and charge you if you go over 100GB of internet data? Clearly they are being anti-competitive to make it difficult for companies that offer streaming (like Netflix) by placing their data under the cap while their own TV data is limitless.

Besides, I think caps will be coming to an end soon. My internet providers have recently made significant increases to their bandwidth caps and even have unlimited plans. Google is trying to get into the provider business with their gigabit fibre. I thin the days of providers being able to put caps on data will soon be coming to an end. Their business model is a dinosaur, and if they don't change they'll get rolled over by newer companies (like Google).
 
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