News Apple Mulls Using 3D NAND from Chinese Supplier YMTC

[Admin]

Apple's Macs, iPhones, and iPads may start using YMTC's 3D NAND.

Apple Mulls Using 3D NAND from Chinese Supplier YMTC : Read more

 

[gg83]

Wouldn't the nand be on an older node than non-chinese suppliers?

 

[King_V]

I feel like an obvious "what could possibly go wrong?" bit of sarcasm is required here.

 

[hotaru251]

protect against sudden interruptions.

yeah...seeing as China plans to invade Taiwan that sudden disruption is gonna happen.

also how do you validate the quality/performance between devices with different parts?

 

[Deleted member 1353997]

how do you validate the quality/performance between devices with different parts?

You define a test that the device must pass, of course.

For example, "the device must achieve a specific score by running a specific benchmark for some specified number of hours before running out of battery at a specified ambient temperature"

It's really not that hard, and devices with different parts have been around since forever. Even gaming consoles can have different parts (usually the disk drive).

 

[cyrusfox]

Is YMTC still stacking NAND cells on CMOS combining 2 different wafers or have they finally got a CMOS under array on a single wafer part of their process? If they are doing the prior still not sure how they can be cost competitive.
Its TLC cells so 600-2000 cycles, if the reliability is there and it is the cheapest, makes sense from an Apple margin point of view. Its a small market (Hynix, Samsung, Kioxia, Micron and these new up & comers).

From what I can see on alibaba looks like the cells are only rated for 600 cycles, so at the minimum for a TLC. At $150 I think I would rather pick up SN850, but apple surely has a volume contract and likely there own controller and integration putting the price in favorable light to make the switch and qualify it up.

 

[Darkbreeze]

This wouldn't be surprising. Apple has only ever cared about Apple anyhow.