News Apple Removes Last Remnants of Intel Silicon, AMD Rembrandt Follows Suit

[Admin]

Apple's refreshed M2 MacBook Air uses a custom U09PY3 USB4 retimer, putting Intel silicon in the rear view mirror.

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[dehjomz]

Even if they're not using Intel chips in the flesh, let's not forget that Intel donated thunderbolt to the USB-IF for USB4... so they're still using Intel's design, in spirit at least. Plus, by opening up thunderbolt to a broader audience, Intel paved the way for competitors to enter the market... I'm looking forward to when 3rd party USB4 designs come to docking stations and NVME SSD enclosures.

Would be interesting to know what change, if any, the non-Intel chips bring to the Mac. For example, USB3 speeds, or compatibility with TB4 docking stations? With respect to TB4 docking stations, Apple's M1 Pro/Max machines have a weird compatibility issue with certain TB4 docks...That is, when the system is restarted if the dock is attached and then the system subsequently goes to sleep, when it awakens from sleep, usb and thunderbolt devices attached to the dock may drop out... The solution with such docking stations is whenever you restart an M1 Pro/Max machine, briefly disconnect the dock and then hotplug it, and then it should function normally, and not have any issues during sleep / wake from sleep. I wonder if the new chips in M2 address this issue?

 

[maik80]

Even if they're not using Intel chips in the flesh, let's not forget that Intel donated thunderbolt to the USB-IF for USB4... so they're still using Intel's design, in spirit at least. Plus, by opening up thunderbolt to a broader audience, Intel paved the way for competitors to enter the market... I'm looking forward to when 3rd party USB4 designs come to docking stations and NVME SSD enclosures.

Would be interesting to know what change, if any, the non-Intel chips bring to the Mac. For example, USB3 speeds, or compatibility with TB4 docking stations? With respect to TB4 docking stations, Apple's M1 Pro/Max machines have a weird compatibility issue with certain TB4 docks...That is, when the system is restarted if the dock is attached and then the system subsequently goes to sleep, when it awakens from sleep, usb and thunderbolt devices attached to the dock may drop out... The solution with such docking stations is whenever you restart an M1 Pro/Max machine, briefly disconnect the dock and then hotplug it, and then it should function normally, and not have any issues during sleep / wake from sleep. I wonder if the new chips in M2 address this issue?

Thunderbolt technology was developed with Apple, so it's not necessarily an Intel product

 

[dehjomz]

Thunderbolt technology was developed with Apple, so it's not necessarily an Intel product

That might be true. But it is Intel that certifies thunderbolt and owns the trademarks. Intel implemented usb4 support in the Linux kernel. It donated tb3 to the usb-if so that tb tech (pcie tunelling displayport tunelling etc) can be brought to a wider audience at a lower cost. ASMedia is bringing usb4 support to market soon… some amd am5 motherboards may use that controller for usb4 support.

 

[passivecool]

It is difficult for me to say this, but... whatever intel can produce, even apple can make better. Pat, pray for better weather!

 

[jasonelmore]

US: We need to rebuild America's semi-conductor industry.
Apple: good luck with that.
China invades Taiwan
Apple: please, intel, we beg you, fab our chip designs.

You know what they say: what goes around.....

 

[TerryLaze]

It is difficult for me to say this, but... whatever intel can produce, even apple can make better. Pat, pray for better weather!

Anybody can take the ARM designs and make something specialized that is better than something general, but you are screwed if somebody buys them out like nvidia tried recently or as jason said what if they lose their fabs.
This is the forth time apple changed to a completely different CPU in recent history.
Also intel' revenue did not drop even a little bit ever since apple switched to ARM so it's smooth sailing for Pat.