Apple to Discontinue Mac Pro in EU Due to New Regulations

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joytech22

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There was no real point to a Mac Pro.
Not when you could throw together a seriously powerful workstation for the same price and have money left over for software.

I just don't get it. Where does it even belong? $4600 buys you something like 3-4 generation old technology.

It's like buying a 1986 Porsche, it has a great name to it but can't really do much compared to a closely priced Ford XR6T 2008 (Australian full-sized 1.6t Sedan by the way, stock 360HP for $20,000)
 

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Normal Tom's reader will ask himself what are the requirements that Apple could not (or did not want to) fulfill. Here is the answer: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/80587/what-are-the-regulatory-requirements-that-will-halt-the-sale-of-the-mac-pro-in-e

Looks like bullcrap reason to me.

At issue are the large fans within the Mac Pro. Since they are unprotected, it would be possible to touch the fan blades.

"The new requirements necessitate fan guards and some increased protection on the ports on the electrical system," explained Apple.
 

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I had a 2010 6-core 3.3Ghz Xeon Mac Pro. While it was not the best bang-for-the-buck there was nothing it couldn't do great (that I needed anyways). It was, however, more machine than I ended up needing. I wonder how long before they stop selling it in the US. In my experience OS X has been just easier (easier isn't always good though) than Windows (though I like Windows just fine) so it was great to have that power on a machine that just worked.

...but I've moved on. Windows 7 & 8 do the trick just fine and I'm good to go with my little MacPro wanna-be Dell XPS and my AMD Phenom X4 965BE.
 

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[citation][nom]classzero[/nom]Do people in the EU stick fingers in running fans that they need a law to stop it?[/citation]

No, that would be the US. (Remember we need everything telling us it's hot, and dangerous)

Although my cat loves chewing on electrical cables, so maybe it's there to protect the cat from sticking it's paw into the fan trying to get that wild cable inside? Who knows hehe^^

I do think it's funny Apple is discontinuing it though, but considering the system itself is worth maybe 300$ and they charge like 15x that, I can kinda see a value in it, even if it is a pointless regulation.

But I thought all computer cases came with built in fan grills? Not only for user protection, but system protection from dust, and to keep random objects from entering the system?
 

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hehehe.... I recently was in the market for a top of the line laptop.... It came down to a mabook pro and an alienware. The macbook pro tech was 2 years older than what the alienware has and the macbook completely loaded was $1500 more than the alienware........ The alienware at its price, also had a more powerfull procesor, more ram, larger hard drives and a blu ray reader (Apple does not come with blu ray readers by default)....

What do you think I chose? (I did not want apple cider).....lol
 

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Good news from the all knowing Socialist/Fascist European Utopia, I have read about so many Mac Pro's catching on fire, end sarcasm.
 
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[citation][nom]joytech22[/nom]There was no real point to a Mac Pro.Not when you could throw together a seriously powerful workstation for the same price and have money left over for software.I just don't get it. Where does it even belong? $4600 buys you something like 3-4 generation old technology.It's like buying a 1986 Porsche, it has a great name to it but can't really do much compared to a closely priced Ford XR6T 2008 (Australian full-sized 1.6t Sedan by the way, stock 360HP for $20,000)[/citation]
It's because apple is so cool and fresh and innovating and(insert other words that apple and their fans use to describe them which aren't true).
 

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You should clarify that they are discontinuing the old model and not the whole line earlier in the article. I don't blame them, those regulations would be too costly to adhere to compared to releasing a new model entirely.
 

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[citation][nom]susyque747[/nom]Good news from the all knowing Socialist/Fascist European Utopia, I have read about so many Mac Pro's catching on fire, end sarcasm.[/citation]

Awww did Fox News tell you to call the EU that?
 

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[citation][nom]joytech22[/nom]There was no real point to a Mac Pro.Not when you could throw together a seriously powerful workstation for the same price and have money left over for software.I just don't get it. Where does it even belong? $4600 buys you something like 3-4 generation old technology.It's like buying a 1986 Porsche, it has a great name to it but can't really do much compared to a closely priced Ford XR6T 2008 (Australian full-sized 1.6t Sedan by the way, stock 360HP for $20,000)[/citation]

I think therein lies the crux of the truth for the PC crowd mentality where you think some piece of crap American car equals a Porsche just because it has more horsepower. I suppose bud "beer" is the best beer too cause its always on sale and has the same amount or more alcohol.
 

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It's obvious that adding the adequate protection in front of the fans cannot be a problem for Apple. The reason is probably more poor sales of the current model and that a new (compliant) generation is coming soon anyway. It's not the first time that a manufacturer sacrifies a model that faces bad sales rather than adapting it to the new rules. The same happened i other companies with ROHS compliance, REACH, etc...

By the way, it's funny to see that they are blocked by this, but still get away with the fact that they are the one and only smartphones manufacturers in the world who doesn't respect the EU rules regarding the micro-USB chargers...
 

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[citation][nom]tmshdw[/nom]I think therein lies the crux of the truth for the PC crowd mentality where you think some piece of crap American car equals a Porsche just because it has more horsepower. I suppose bud "beer" is the best beer too cause its always on sale and has the same amount or more alcohol.[/citation]

Wait, so you don't think that status-symbol car brands are overpriced? Not that there's anything wrong with an overpriced Mercedes or a BMW or a Porsche -- but it's assumed at those dealerships that you're paying a high premium in return for the ability to show off to your friends and/or potential clients. At least a car works as a status symbol.

A phone or a tablet or a computer? If you have to retreat to those items to show off your status, then that's pretty sad. Comparing Porsche to Apple? Even sadder.
 
[citation][nom]joytech22[/nom]There was no real point to a Mac Pro.Not when you could throw together a seriously powerful workstation for the same price and have money left over for software.I just don't get it. Where does it even belong? $4600 buys you something like 3-4 generation old technology.It's like buying a 1986 Porsche, it has a great name to it but can't really do much compared to a closely priced Ford XR6T 2008 (Australian full-sized 1.6t Sedan by the way, stock 360HP for $20,000)[/citation]
While I am not exactly the world's biggest fan of Mac, I do have to stick up for them here. The mac pros are actually some really really good machines. They have great cases, great cooling (except of that line of duel G5s with the water coolers that would rust out... that was bad), tons of throughput, all server grade hardware, and they have gotten some really impressive exclusive Intel CPUs in them on a few occasions. And on top of all of that, Apple treats it's Pro users VERY well.
I work with a nonprofit that uses all mac pros and I was really scratching my head as to why on earth they would waste that kind of money. But I have to admit, for a company that has absolutely 0 technical skills they work very well for them. No viruses, no maintenance to speak of, when things break the store has often replaced defective units with newer models, and even some of the 10 year old Mac Pros that they have are still used for what they were purchased for. Considering what they have saved on tech support and replacement costs, the high entry price has been more than justifyable for them.

That being said: Anyone smart enough to know how to use, protect, and upgrade a PC should absolutely get a PC. It is way cheaper if you have even a basic working knowledge to get a PC and do your own maintenance. You can easily purchase 2 high end PCs for the price of a single high end Mac, and if you can build your own then it often goes up to 3:1. But if you are just going to throw all of your money at maintenance costs anyways, then Mac Pros are a good investment.
 
[citation][nom]jn77[/nom]hehehe.... I recently was in the market for a top of the line laptop.... It came down to a mabook pro and an alienware. The macbook pro tech was 2 years older than what the alienware has and the macbook completely loaded was $1500 more than the alienware........ The alienware at its price, also had a more powerfull procesor, more ram, larger hard drives and a blu ray reader (Apple does not come with blu ray readers by default)....What do you think I chose? (I did not want apple cider).....lol[/citation]
Dude, you bought a dell... you still lost.
 

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Seriously. I kept waiting for the article to summarize the regulation in question -- and it never did. Thanks for looking out.
 

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It's still pretty crazy that a Macbook Pro makes even an Alienware look cost-efficient -- that is, if jn77's story is true. I'm not convinced he isn't exaggerating a little.
 

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[citation][nom]tmshdw[/nom]I think therein lies the crux of the truth for the PC crowd mentality where you think some piece of crap American car equals a Porsche just because it has more horsepower. I suppose bud "beer" is the best beer too cause its always on sale and has the same amount or more alcohol.[/citation]

Did you just hate on Australians, American's and PC users in the same line? Not to split hairs with you, but I would take ANY new non economy/compact US car over a 30 year old porsche all week.

Let me fix your statement for you.

"I think therein lies the crux of the truth for the MAC crowd mentality where you think some old used Porsche equals a new American car just because it has an expensive name."


 

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Reminds me of the time I left the cover off of my case for a bit and my cat got it's tail stuck in the cpu cooler. Ahh, good times.

That being said, this is just some bullshit excuse for apple to push their whole "post PC era" bullshit. They want to discontinue standalone desktop computers for the sake of tablets and macbooks.
 

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[citation][nom]dalethepcman[/nom]Did you just hate on Australians, American's and PC users in the same line? Not to split hairs with you, but I would take ANY new non economy/compact US car over a 30 year old porsche all week. Let me fix your statement for you."I think therein lies the crux of the truth for the MAC crowd mentality where you think some old used Porsche equals a new American car just because it has an expensive name."[/citation]

Nah.... I hated on simpleton's of all creeds. The simpleton american mentality, spreading world wide, of more or cheap crap is better than a quality product.This isn't to say if its expensive its better. Its to recognize what is better/quality is. But wasted breath here. Like I said, enjoy you bud "beer".
 
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