Apple to Release Lion on USB in August

[JMcEntegart]

Lion is coming to a USB stick near you.

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[andy5174]

Why is Apple selling the OS on USB and charging more than double the price?

Because it is "APPLE"!

 

[nebun]

that's how they brag about their millions and billions of downloads

 

[molo9000]

Why is Apple selling the OS on USB and charging more than double the price? We can't say for sure

That's not too hard to figure out, is it?

The Appstore version only works for people who already have 10.6 Snow Leopard.
The USB version is also for people who still have 10.5 Leopard or 10.4 Tiger.

This is probably also meant to reduce piracy. Since Apple doesn't bother with license keys, you can probably install the USB version on any Mac you come across.

 

[Tuishimi]

It's also nearly half of what I used to pay for their new OS releases on CD, then DVD. Not to mention I recently paid a heck of a lot more for a new Windows DVD.

I downloaded it via app store for my wife and daughter's computers, but for people who want to keep a physical copy around, I don't think that is too much to ask for it.

 

[tmax]

I wish more software would be released on USB like PC games, Windows, even music, and movies. It's a good idea IMO.

 

[cuecuemore]

Lol, a "hefty download" at "almost 4gb".

 

[ricardok]

[citation][nom]Tuishimi[/nom]It's also nearly half of what I used to pay for their new OS releases on CD, then DVD. Not to mention I recently paid a heck of a lot more for a new Windows DVD.[/citation]Sure, you did pay a lot more for a FULLY FLEDGE OS. But pay for an update? Damn.. That's hard to swallow. The diference of $40 because of a thumb drive? Damn, that drive is made of gold and diamonds.. Or... it might be that the thumb drive have an Apple logo! That's it..

 

[reggieray]

From what I have read Apple can keep it. I'm keeping both my Macs on Snow Leopard.

 

[reggieray]

[citation][nom]Tuishimi[/nom]It's also nearly half of what I used to pay for their new OS releases on CD, then DVD. Not to mention I recently paid a heck of a lot more for a new Windows DVD.I downloaded it via app store for my wife and daughter's computers, but for people who want to keep a physical copy around, I don't think that is too much to ask for it.[/citation]
I thumbed you down for being a Apple tool but if you want a copy of what you downloaded then:
Download Mac OS X Lion from the Mac App Store
From the Mac OS X Finder, locate the Mac OS X Installation file that was downloaded, right-click, and “Show Package Contents”
Find and open the “SharedSupport” folder and locate a disc image file called “InstallESD.dmg”
Copy “InstallESD.dmg” to your Mac OS X Desktop, this is the Lion disk image and what you’re going to create the bootable DVD from
Now launch Disk Utility (/Applications/Utilities/), pop in a blank DVD, select the “InstallESD.DMG” file, and click on “Burn”

 

[walter87]

Apple realized that people still prefer the physical disc method. But since some of their products no longer have that option, they decide to go a more expensive route.

I think they should have just make a DVD version and charge the same $40, and make the macbook air users download it. Is it really necessary for a company thats making $10-20 Billion profit/quarter cheap out of manufacturing DVDs?

 

[walter87]

[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]That's not too hard to figure out, is it?The Appstore version only works for people who already have 10.6 Snow Leopard.The USB version is also for people who still have 10.5 Leopard or 10.4 Tiger.This is probably also meant to reduce piracy. Since Apple doesn't bother with license keys, you can probably install the USB version on any Mac you come across.[/citation]
It doesn't help with piract one bit. Theres already bootable ISO images for the installation. Hackers will always find a way.
Personally I would like the option for physical media to install any software. Not everyone around the world can get unlimited internet at a reasonable price. I stretch my bandwidth cap to the limit nearly every month at it is doing casual streaming and downloading, the more I can save at any moment the better. Giving choices to the consumer gives everyone equal satisfaction to all your fans.

 

[Blessedman]

Why can't we thumb up or down the actual article itself?

I am amazed that apple users see the quarterly reports and see that they are being ripped off and continue to buy their products.

 

[molo9000]

[citation][nom]walter87[/nom]It doesn't help with piract one bit. Theres already bootable ISO images for the installation. Hackers will always find a way.[/citation]

Yes hackers will always find a way. That's why Apple doesn't use any sort of copy protection that would only make the life of users more difficult.
The thing is that users can now no longer buy a physical copy for 30bucks and give it to all their friends. If they want that, they have to pay extra.

[citation][nom]Blessedman[/nom]Why can't we thumb up or down the actual article itself? I am amazed that apple users see the quarterly reports and see that they are being ripped off and continue to buy their products.[/citation]

Microsoft has a higher profit margin than Apple (33% vs 25%) and yet people keep buying Windows and Office at monopoly prices.

 

[liveonc]

Is it a USB 3.0 stick, or a USB 2.0 stick with an Apple Logo? ;-)

 

[halcyon]

I like Lion but its got a few performance-related bugs I don't feel like dealing with and, for me, isn't as refined yet as 10.6.8. Surprise, surpise. ...so I moved two of my machines back to 10.6.8. ...when 10.7.2 releases I'll try again.

...but the interface is slicker than I anticipated. I expected the iOS merge stuff to be stupid. ...but its not. It's pretty slick and they slickened up the UI...so I'll be glad when they get the kinks ironed out.

 

[walter87]

[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Yes hackers will always find a way. That's why Apple doesn't use any sort of copy protection that would only make the life of users more difficult.The thing is that users can now no longer buy a physical copy for 30bucks and give it to all their friends. If they want that, they have to pay extra.Microsoft has a higher profit margin than Apple (33% vs 25%) and yet people keep buying Windows and Office at monopoly prices.[/citation]
So if apple doesn't use keys and friends can just borrow a disk to install, whats the difference than for a usb drive?

 

[pinkfloydminnesota]

Because their customers are willing to get ripped off for something cool.

 

[Guest]

Apple charges what they charge because that's what the greatest number of people are willing to pay. It's all the result of market research. The first rule of business is to make a profit, and the best way to make a profit is to determine what you need to charge to cover the cost of developing your product, then mark it up to where you'll sell the greatest number of units. At $69, Lion on a USB stick is still $30 less than the cost of a Win7 license, which is appropriate because Windows is an infinitely better OS. When my wife's MacBook has issues, it takes me hours to figure out how to fix it, but when any of my Windows machines has a problem it's usually fixed in a few minutes with a quick Google search.

 

[pinkfloydminnesota]

Actually no, you don't mark it up to greatest number of units sold, you mark it up to the greatest profit made, which can be a higher price than the price with greatest number of units sold

 

[molo9000]

[citation][nom]walter87[/nom]So if apple doesn't use keys and friends can just borrow a disk to install, whats the difference than for a usb drive?[/citation]

The vast majority of people won't buy the USB drive if they can get the download version for less than half the price.

Pirating OS X is still easy. You can just extract the disk image from the downloaded installer package. (Also useful if you don't want to download OS X again and again for all your Macs)
Casual piracy ("Can u lend me your install disk?" "alright") has become more difficult though.

 

[wopr11]

Charging $40 dollars for a $4.99 USB thumb drive is consistent with apple's pricing policies - and apple users will love to bend over and dish their money out for the drive - simply because it will be shiny and with the apple logo. Heck, they would buy dog crap if it is packaged in a white box with the apple logo.

 

[Guest]

"Why $40 for a $4.99 thumb drive?" This is the same company that charges $100 to upgrade from a 500GB 2.5" drive to a 750GB, after all. As long as the kool-aid drin...er..."Apple faithful" are willing to pay it, Apple will keep charging it.

And regarding the Apple vs Microsoft profit margin argument, Apple sells primarily hardware, while Microsoft is similarly software-dominant. Software always has a higher profit margin.

 

[eddieroolz]

Charge $40 for a 4GB USB and shipping. Apple's way of doing business.

 

[halcyon]

[citation][nom]jackfalbey[/nom]Apple charges what they charge because that's what the greatest number of people are willing to pay. It's all the result of market research. The first rule of business is to make a profit, and the best way to make a profit is to determine what you need to charge to cover the cost of developing your product, then mark it up to where you'll sell the greatest number of units. At $69, Lion on a USB stick is still $30 less than the cost of a Win7 license, which is appropriate because Windows is an infinitely better OS. When my wife's MacBook has issues, it takes me hours to figure out how to fix it, but when any of my Windows machines has a problem it's usually fixed in a few minutes with a quick Google search.[/citation]

So because you're more familiar with Windows than you are with Mac OS X makes Windows 7 an "infinitely better OS". What features is it, precisely, that Windows 7 offers that Mac OS X 10.6.8 or 10.7 don't offer that it should cost more than Apple's $70 10.7 Lion?