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The patented OLED pixel design combined with a revolutionary manufacturing process enhances all types of OLED displays by delivering superior brightness, sharper clarity, improved energy efficiency, and extended lifespan.

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[ezst036]

Some of this might be a Pyrrhic victory. What is the latest on OLED burn-in?

If it lasts longer but still burns in after 3 years, then the life span remains 3 years. Combining the categories of phone, computer, and menu displays there is a lot of the market that will have non-moving screen items.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/oled-burn-in-testing-10-months

 

[helper800]

Some of this might be a Pyrrhic victory. What is the latest on OLED burn-in?

If it lasts longer but still burns in after 3 years, then the life span remains 3 years. Combining the categories of phone, computer, and menu displays there is a lot of the market that will have non-moving screen items.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/oled-burn-in-testing-10-months

Burn in has no issue in static only display use cases if the underlying material never changes from the original because you need movement to perceive the the burn-in unless we are talking about 10+ years of use and the pixels become so worn out the display is uniformly very dim. I am a big fan of OLEDs and have been using them for years with no perceivable burn in yet.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

and enjoy a 5x longer lifespan compared to traditional OLED displays.

Give me a 10 year parts and labor warranty and I'll consider an OLED TV and computer monitor.

 

[helper800]

Give me a 10 year parts and labor warranty and I'll consider an OLED TV and computer monitor.

You can just buy a 10 year 3rd party warranty that covers burn in, parts, and labor and consider the cost part of owning an OLED. I got a 5 year extended warranty through costco for my LG 55 inch CX OLED that I use probably 4+ hours a day and the warranty is nearly up with no burn in. IMO, people over exaggerate the risk to the point of considering the products to risky to own.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

You can just buy a 10 year 3rd party warranty that covers burn in, parts, and labor and consider the cost part of owning an OLED. I got a 5 year extended warranty through costco for my LG 55 inch CX OLED that I use probably 4+ hours a day and the warranty is nearly up with no burn in. IMO, people over exaggerate the risk to the point of considering the products to risky to own.

A TV isn't a computer monitor. Remember the warning by TH's sister publication:

https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/i-didnt-fear-burn-in-on-my-oled-gaming-monitor-until-i-got-burned

 

[helper800]

A TV isn't a computer monitor. Remember the warning by TH's sister publication:

https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/i-didnt-fear-burn-in-on-my-oled-gaming-monitor-until-i-got-burned

I use it bot as a monitor and TV about 50-50 mixed usage 4+ hours a day...

 

[gamerk316]

A TV isn't a computer monitor. Remember the warning by TH's sister publication:

https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/i-didnt-fear-burn-in-on-my-oled-gaming-monitor-until-i-got-burned

My recommendation (as an owner of a an old LG B6 and now a C2):

• Use dark mode (looks like thats what got the user in the link)
• Minimize the Windows taskbar
• Lower the OLED light (Mine's at 30; it really helps and you adjust to it)
• Black desktop background

OLEDs are much better then they used to be; my B6 got dinged on the Taskbar (back when I didn't minimize it) and a year of WFH did *not* help matters (uniformity became an issue). My C2 by contrast is running three years strong with no burn in or wear in sight despite *very* heavy usage.

 

[heffeque]

Some of this might be a Pyrrhic victory. What is the latest on OLED burn-in?

If it lasts longer but still burns in after 3 years, then the life span remains 3 years. Combining the categories of phone, computer, and menu displays there is a lot of the market that will have non-moving screen items.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/oled-burn-in-testing-10-months

My over 5 year-old phone (Xiaomi Mi 9T) has an OLED screen, has tons of screen time on it, and colors are as beautiful as ever, and no burn-in anywhere.
Saying that OLED screens only last for 3 years seems VERY exaggerated.

 

[jp7189]

Every OLED phone i have owned burns in the waze app within a year or two,

That said, i just took the leap to LG G4 TV for my desktop from a Samsung Q90 LED. For office use the Q90 had a very distracting (to me) halo anywhere there was white test on dark background. It also make black text on a white background grayish, but that's not as noticeable. The G4 on the other hand doesn't have that problem and makes everything appear crisper and easier to read.

Switching over to gaming, there no comparison the G4 color and black levels are just amazing. Frankly, that does more for the visuals than an upgraded GPU would have.

The newer pixel refresh logic is supposed to delay burn in, but i expect that I will eventually get it.. hopefully I can get 5 years out of it first.

To me the better daily experience is worth the risk of burn in down the road. We'll see if I'm still singing that tune in a few years.

 

[gamerk316]

Every OLED phone i have owned burns in the waze app within a year or two,

That said, i just took the leap to LG G4 TV for my desktop from a Samsung Q90 LED. For office use the Q90 had a very distracting (to me) halo anywhere there was white test on dark background. It also make black text on a white background grayish, but that's not as noticeable. The G4 on the other hand doesn't have that problem and makes everything appear crisper and easier to read.

Switching over to gaming, there no comparison the G4 color and black levels are just amazing. Frankly, that does more for the visuals than an upgraded GPU would have.

The newer pixel refresh logic is supposed to delay burn in, but i expect that I will eventually get it.. hopefully I can get 5 years out of it first.

To me the better daily experience is worth the risk of burn in down the road. We'll see if I'm still singing that tune in a few years.

See my notes above.

 

[80251]

Are OLED panels still more expensive than an equivalent IPS panel? I can't imagine paying more and taking the chance on burn-in. I've had burn-in on my Asus pg279q when using it as a TV panel (thanks Discovery channel!).
I remember when people used to worry about burn-in on CRTs -- something that never happened to me but I've seen happen in other applications (e.g. public, informational CRTs).

 

[helper800]

Are OLED panels still more expensive than an equivalent IPS panel? I can't imagine paying more and taking the chance on burn-in. I've had burn-in on my Asus pg279q when using it as a TV panel (thanks Discovery channel!).
I remember when people used to worry about burn-in on CRTs -- something that never happened to me but I've seen happen in other applications (e.g. public, informational CRTs).

OLEDs have no comparative IPS display, they are superior in every way.

 

[jp7189]

See my notes above.

Thanks for that info. I've done most of those recommendations, but can't hide the task bar and that's concerning me. I make remote connections to many different computers (100s), and so controlling the composition of each becomes a little unmanageable. So, that's primarily where my concern lies. I'm hoping pixel refresh and some time spent gaming and movie watching might help to stave off the problem for a bit.

 

[gamerk316]

You should be able to set the Taskbar to auto-minimize, and have it pop up when you mouse to the bottom of the screen. You should just have to go into Taskbar Settings (right-click on the Taskbar) and set the "Automatically Hide Taskbar" options.