Question Appreciate some advice for building my computer

[Megane67]

Greetings!

Since Black Friday is approaching, I've been researching and planning on buying components to build a new computer that will serve me well for at least the next five years or so while moving my older i7-9700K downstairs to my den for gaming. Here are my questions:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K Desktop - Is there enough difference between an i7-12700K and the 13700K-14700K to justify paying the extra cost? Also, is an i9 just expensive overkill? I mostly plan to use this computer for web browsing, video editing (Just 1080p currently), word processing and playing the newest games (1080p, 60fps Max) that my old i7-9700K won't support as well.

GPU: MSi RTX 4060 Ventus 2X Black 8GB OC - I was originally going to get the same GTX 1660 Ti that I use with my old computer but it's actually MORE expensive than just getting the newer and more powerful RTX 4060. Is this card overkill or is it the best way to go for the next five years? Right now I only game at 1080p max and that's the maximum resolution my current monitor can handle as well. 4K doesn't seem worth it until the technology catches up where I can play 4K at 60fps and it doesn't cost a fortune.

PSU: Corsair RM850e 80 Plus Gold

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - I'm really not familar with Motherboards at all, my last one for my i7-9700K was a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro that was recommended. Is this Z790 Motherboard ideal for my setup or is there a cheaper better alternative? I don't mind spending the money if it's worth it but I don't want to get ripped off either.

Cooler: The cooler for my old computer is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. I have NO idea which cooler would be sufficent for this new computer but I can say I plan to use Turbo but not Overclock. Any suggestions are appreciated.

RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL DDR4 2x16 GB - I figure 32GB of RAM is enough, I can always upgrade later if need be, right?

SSD: Samsung 990 EVO 1TB PCIe 4.0 x 4 / 5.0 x 2, NVMe 2.0, Speeds Up-to 5,00MB/s
HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 4TB Internal HDD
- Is it ideal/necessary to use a SSD with a new computer, using the SSD for Windows and all applications and then a HDD for videos/files/etc? Or can I just use a HDD/SSD for both? I'm asking because my old computer used a Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe M.2 Internal SSD for Windows and some applications while a Seagate BarraCuda 2TB Internal HDD handled the rest. This would sometimes result in a video freezing for several seconds or folders/files taking several seconds to load properly. Will the additional Cores/Threads of the computer solve these issues or is this some separate issue that has nothing to do with SSD?

OS: Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - Do I need to buy Windows 11 or can I just put this on the new computer and get a free upgrade to Windows 11 when it finally becomes necessary?

Whew, I think that's everything. If I missed something, please let me know and any advice/help you can give me is very much appreciated, thank you.

 

[Lutfij]

An i9 for 1080p is definitely overkill. If you're going 2K or 4K then you look at something beefy on the CPU and GPU(to balance things). I would stick to the 12th Gen or an AM5 platform, skipping the 13th and 14th Gen processors.

You can look at anything that has X.M.P advertised on it but look for DDR5-6600MHz or slightly higher.

I tend to use 2 SSD's for most builds, one that's smaller in capacity to house the OS, app's and launchers(if you're looking at a gaming system) while a second larger drive is the game library drive.

As for the OS, what sort of a license key do you have? If it's an OEM key(usually found for very cheap) then I don't think you can migrate it to another platform. I've never migrated any of my OSes, I bought and installed an OS onto every new system I've built for myself. Someone with more knowledge on that can chime in.

I would advise on stylizing your thread as a followup akin to this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

for us to see if we can actually build you a robust system for this year.

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($111.34 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock B760 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($44.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $266.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-17 18:54 EST-0500

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($44.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $354.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-17 18:55 EST-0500

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($191.14 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($44.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $396.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-17 18:56 EST-0500

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I would recommend following the format above, but a few notes.

Regarding CPUs:
Avoid 13/14th gen. Top end i9s have major stability/reliability problems and the platform overall is just not a good buy right now. The latest generation "Core ultra" parts are also very expensive and mediocre, so avoid those.

Instead, consider 12th gen or especially AMD AM5 platform, which delivers great performance and will allow for future upgrades down the road easily. I would also recommend i5 or comparable AMD Ryzen CPU and redirecting that money to buying the next tier up GPU, such as a 4070 over a 4060, rather than spending extra for an i7/i9. This will perform better in games, and allow for better encoding acceleration capability for video editing.

Regarding Cooling:
Hyper 212 Evo was a good cooler in its day, but will struggle with the heat output associated with modern CPUs. It may also not have the brackets in order to be able to be installed on a current socket motherboard, as LGA1700 uses different hole spacing than 1151. If you like aircooling, the Thermalright Peerless Assassin offers very high end performance for an excellent price. If you would prefer liquid cooling, Arctics Liquid Freezer lineup is excellent.

Regarding Ram:
I would start at 32gb. As long as you buy a board with 4 slots, you can easily upgrade down the road. For 12th gen, what motherboard you choose will control whether you need DDR4 or DDR5 ram. If you buy AMD AM5, you will need DDR5. I would reccomend DDR5 in either case.

Regarding Storage:
I am a strong supported of going all solid state if you can afford it. Using one single drive makes organizing things much easier, and a Samsung 990 pro will absolutely run circles around any mechanical hard drive performance wise.

Regarding Windows:
If you are signed into a Microsoft account on Windows currently, there is a chance the license will be associated with this account and simply signing in on your new computer will activate Windows. If not, you can purchase a new key. I would a fresh installation of Windows 11 for a new computer, although you can Install 10 and upgrade down the road if you choose too.

 

[Megane67]

Okay, first off, thank youvery much for the quick replies. First I'll follow the suggested format with the new information I've learned here and from searching the internet before replying to individual questions:

Approximate Purchase Date: In the next two weeks hopefully.

Budget Range: Up to $2000 CAN if possible, though it can go a little higher if it's worth it.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Surfing the internet, video editing, word processing, playing newest games.

Are you buying a monitor: No.

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K Desktop Processor 12 (8P+4E) Cores up to 5.0 GHz Unlocked LGA1700 600 Series Chipset 125W [$299.99 CAN Amazon.ca]

GPU: MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDRR6 128-Bit HDMI/DP Nvlink TORX Fan 4.0 Ada Lovelace Architecture Graphics Card (RTX 4060 Ventus 2X Black 8G OC) [$399.99 CAN Amazon.ca]

PSU: Corsair RM850e (2023) Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply - ATX 3.1 & PCIe 5.1 Compliant - 105°C-Rated Capacitors - 80 Plus Gold Efficiency - Modern Standby Support - Black [$169.99 CAN Amazon.ca]

RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6600MHz CL38 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible Computer Memory - Black (CMH32GX5M2B6600C38) [$174.99 CAN Amazon.ca]

Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming Z790-Plus WiFi LGA 1700(Intel®12th&13th Gen) ATX Motherboard(PCIe 5.0,DDR5,4xM.2 Slots,16+1 DrMOS,WiFi 6,2.5Gb LAN,Front USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C®,Thunderbolt 4(USB4),Aura RGB) [$149.14 CAN Amazon.ca]

Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Air Cooler, 6 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler, Dual 120mm TL-C12C PWM Fan, Aluminium Heatsink Cover, AGHP Technology, for AMD AM4/AM5 Intel 1700/1150/1151/1200/2066 [$46.90 CAN Amazon.ca]

SSD: SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Hard Drive,Up to 7,450MB/s,Fast Speed for Gaming,Heat Control,Direct Storage&Memory
Expansion,MZ-V9P1T0B/AM[Canada Version] [$219.97 CAN Amazon.ca]

2nd SSD: SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Hard Drive, Up to 7,450MB/s, Fast Speed for Gaming Heat Control, Direct Storage and Memory Expansion, MZ-V9P2T0B/AM [Canada Version] [$323.99 CAN Amazon.ca]

Do you need to buy OS: Yes.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (Amazon.ca)

Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada

Parts Preferences: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU.

Overclocking: No.

SLI or Crossfire: No.

Your Monitor Resolution: (1920x1080)

Additional Comments: I plan to use Turbo with the computer but not overclocking. I also checked NewEgg.ca and eBay.ca for computer parts but they all seem to be the same price or close to it and I have Prime so I can save some money on shipping.

Why Are You Upgrading: I want to move my old i7-9700K computer downstairs for gaming and have a new computer for surfing the internet, video editing, word processing and playing the newest games that won't run as well on my old computer.


>Instead, consider 12th gen or especially AMD AM5 platform, which delivers great performance and will >allow for future upgrades down the road easily. I would also recommend i5 or comparable AMD Ryzen >CPU and redirecting that money to buying the next tier up GPU, such as a 4070 over a 4060, rather than >spending extra for an i7/i9. This will perform better in games, and allow for better encoding acceleration >capability for video editing.

Okay, I appreciate the advice and I've looked into the pricing of RTX 4070 and as of this posting, I've found it cost $400 or more than a RTX 4060, regardless of the brand. On the other hand, there is currently only a $50 difference between getting an i5-12600K and a i7-12700K on Amazon.ca. Do you or anyone else know if the price of the RTX 4070 is likely to drop around Black Friday this year? If not, do you think it might be better for me to go with the RTX 4060 with the i7-12700K instead?

Again, any help or advice you can give me is appreciated.