[SOLVED] Archival Dvds

[Pc6777]

I'm archiving my music, older and current windows isos and some offline games and programs , and gpu drivers on DVDs. I use verbatim m-discs, verbatim gold archival dvds, and verbatim dual layer azo DVDs, the m discs are supposed to last 1000 years, and the gold and azo discs are supposed to last 100. I don't care if they last 100, 50 years is good enough for me I won't care about this stuff when I'm old lol. Can the azo and gold discs last that long stored in a case logic dvd binder? I won't ever take the discs out unless I need to and will also backup on hard drives.

Links to the discs I use

Verbatim 4.7 gb M-discs

https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-M-D...ords=verbatim+mdisc+dvd&qid=1611997007&sr=8-3

Verbatim 4.7 gb Gold archival dvds

https://www.amazon.com/VERBATIM-963...batim+gold+archival+dvd&qid=1611997060&sr=8-4

AZO 8.5 gb dual layer dvds

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001D8OGOO?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

Other brand of m-discs I ordered because verbatim ones went up in price 4.7 gb

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/smartbuy-4x-4-7gb-m-disc/p/12Z-001D-000D2

I use an m disc compatible LG super multi internal sata burner

 

[mdd1963]

I'd guess it would be hard to intelligently speculate now on the accuracy of their advertising regarding durability of media...; as most DVD media in not all that expensive, I'd say make 2 copies of everything, and, if media is still available in 10-15 years, make new copies then, in addition to putting it on the what is likely to be external 20 TB USB drives as well...

For smaller portable programs, or installers for apps you like/use, I keep several on a dedicated P-Cloud Folder, for which you can store 10 GB in a free account...

 

[Pc6777]

I'd guess it would be hard to intelligently speculate now on the accuracy of their advertising regarding durability of media...; as most DVD media in not all that expensive, I'd say make 2 copies of everything, and, if media is still available in 10-15 years, make new copies then, in addition to putting it on the what is likely to be external 20 TB USB drives as well...

For smaller portable programs, or installers for apps you like/use, I keep several on a dedicated P-Cloud Folder, for which you can store 10 GB in a free account...

I don't really trust the cloud but I might as well have my data in as many places as possible, it won't hurt. on forum posts people were saying the azo layer disks were the best/teir one, but I don't think anyone has had one long enough to know there lifespan. I make 2 or 3 copies of everything.

 

[USAFRet]

I wouldn't trust any single media.
People swore up and down that regular DVD would last 10 years easy.
Ha.

From a stack of DVD burned 10-15 years ago, I'm seeing a 50% success rate. Of course, this is on garden variety DVD.

Their archival ones may last to the advertised lifespan. Of course, they've not actually been around for 50 years, so that is just extrapolated lifespan.

Another possible impact is the drive.
Some DVD will read in Drive A, but not in Drive B. Will you have the same DVD player in 20 years?

 

[Pc6777]

I wouldn't trust any single media.
People swore up and down that regular DVD would last 10 years easy.
Ha.

From a stack of DVD burned 10-15 years ago, I'm seeing a 50% success rate. Of course, this is on garden variety DVD.

Their archival ones may last to the advertised lifespan. Of course, they've not actually been around for 50 years, so that is just extrapolated lifespan.

Another possible impact is the drive.
Some DVD will read in Drive A, but not in Drive B. Will you have the same DVD player in 20 years?

I wouldn't trust any single media.
People swore up and down that regular DVD would last 10 years easy.
Ha.

From a stack of DVD burned 10-15 years ago, I'm seeing a 50% success rate. Of course, this is on garden variety DVD.

Their archival ones may last to the advertised lifespan. Of course, they've not actually been around for 50 years, so that is just extrapolated lifespan.

Another possible impact is the drive.
Some DVD will read in Drive A, but not in Drive B. Will you have the same DVD player in 20 years?

I have trillions of dvd players like tons of them some older some newer and I will never toss them, might buy a high end one while you can still buy them. I also plan on backing up on hard drives and flash storage and rewriting every so often . Im not suprised dvds has a 50 percent failure rate after that time, most of them dont last long which is why I spend more for stuff that will hopefully last as my only backups that wont be effected by magnetism or electric flash cells.

 

[SkyNetRising]

I'm archiving my music, older and current windows isos and some offline games and programs , and gpu drivers on DVDs.

I'd just use large capacity HDD and store all the DVDs on them.
That's much more convenient.

You can access all the content instantly.​

Do not have to juggle hundreds of DVDs.​

Do not have to worry about DVD media to become unreadable.​

Do not have to retest DVD media.​

​

IMHO - DVD is dead technology.

 

[USAFRet]

And why I've given up on DVD completely.
The archivals and their cost doesn't stack up against hard drives. For me, anyway.

And never 'write once, sit on the shelf for many years'.

 

[Pc6777]

I'd just use large capacity HDD and store all the DVDs on them.
That's much more convenient.

You can access all the content instantly.​

Do not have to juggle hundreds of DVDs.​

Do not have to worry about DVD media to become unreadable.​

Do not have to retest DVD media.​

​

IMHO - DVD is dead technology.

I already bought them, and the m discs will legitimately outlast everything at least, but yea im using hard drives as my main archival method discs are just one of my medias, I will probably use like 4 drives so I have a few fail safes and change them every 7 years and rewrite every 2 or 4 years. I have so many hard drives laying around might as well put them to use. How long can they hold data untouched?

 

[USAFRet]

How long can they hold data untouched?

There is no "they".
2 hard drives, off the same assembly line, one right after the other.

One may last 2 decades just sitting on the shelf.
The other will die 48 hours before you crank it up.

For stats like this, we can only look at fleetwide numbers.
"Of 2,000 drives of a particular make/model, 0.4% died within 6 months of first use."
Sucks if YOUR drive was one of those 80 fatalities. Everyone else was fine, though.

 

[Pc6777]

There is no "they".
2 hard drives, off the same assembly line, one right after the other.

One may last 2 decades just sitting on the shelf.
The other will die 48 hours before you crank it up.

For stats like this, we can only look at fleetwide numbers.
"Of 2,000 drives of a particular make/model, 0.4% died within 6 months of first use."
Sucks if YOUR drive was one of those 80 fatalities. Everyone else was fine, though.

yea thats why im gona backup on multiple, its very unlikely that 4 hard drives would all be defective. plus I will also backup on the computer im using right now beacause I have loads of storage and maybe some flash drives too that I plug in every so often to reenergize the cells so like 10 backups and 3 different storage mediums.