Are AMD CPUs good and reliable?

[Cardinals21]

I am building a budget gaming pc and I can't really afford an Intel. So, I'm looking at an AMD.
Here is the exact build I'm looking at.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1X6Nl
Does anyone have some insight? Also, I'm probably going to upgrade it at some point
so what would be a good CPU upgrade that is still compatible with everything so I
won't have to replace the motherboard or anything like that. Thanks!

 

[logainofhades]

For a little more, you can get a far better CPU and twice the storage. FM2 is going to be replaced with FM2+ early next year.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $584.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 16:28 EST-0500)

 

[Derppppp]

AMD are very reliable, just make sure you snap on a CPU Cooler. I don't think there is a CPU upgrade for you. FM2+ is already out, I think and there are new (quad-core) Steamroller based APUs coming out this year...

 

[Cardinals21]

For a little more, you can get a far better CPU. FM2 is going to be replaced with FM2+ early next year.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $619.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 16:27 EST-0500)

I would use this setup but there is one problem, my budget is $560 max.

 

[catswold]

I am building a budget gaming pc and I can't really afford an Intel. So, I'm looking at an AMD.
Here is the exact build I'm looking at.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1X6Nl
Does anyone have some insight? Also, I'm probably going to upgrade it at some point
so what would be a good CPU upgrade that is still compatible with everything so I
won't have to replace the motherboard or anything like that. Thanks!

Yes, AMD processors are every bit as reliable as Intel. The only place they lose out is in pure gaming speed.

I think your build is fine and a 6-core processor as opposed to a 4 core won't make any real difference in gaming.

 

[Cardinals21]

AMD are very reliable, just make sure you snap on a CPU Cooler. I don't think there is a CPU upgrade for you. FM2+ is already out, I think and there are new (quad-core) Steamroller based APUs coming out this year...

What is FM2+ everyone is talking about? Is it a new version of the FM2 motherboard and why is it so important?

 

[logainofhades]

Yea, I was having some issues with PC partpicker. I was trying some things in a hurry also. I went back and made some changes while you were posting that. :lol: It is a bit over the $560 mark still, though.

 

[logainofhades]

AMD are very reliable, just make sure you snap on a CPU Cooler. I don't think there is a CPU upgrade for you. FM2+ is already out, I think and there are new (quad-core) Steamroller based APUs coming out this year...

What is FM2+ everyone is talking about? Is it a new version of the FM2 motherboard and why is it so important?

FM2+ is a new socket. FM2 chips will work in FM2+ boards but FM2+ CPU's will not work in FM2. For all intents and purposes FM2 is a dead socket in a couple months or so.

 

[catswold]

AMD are very reliable, just make sure you snap on a CPU Cooler. I don't think there is a CPU upgrade for you. FM2+ is already out, I think and there are new (quad-core) Steamroller based APUs coming out this year...

What is FM2+ everyone is talking about? Is it a new version of the FM2 motherboard and why is it so important?

FM2+ is the next generation of the FM2 socket. Getting it would make you slightly more future proof for the next generation of AMD CPUs.

 

[logainofhades]

I am building a budget gaming pc and I can't really afford an Intel. So, I'm looking at an AMD.
Here is the exact build I'm looking at.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1X6Nl
Does anyone have some insight? Also, I'm probably going to upgrade it at some point
so what would be a good CPU upgrade that is still compatible with everything so I
won't have to replace the motherboard or anything like that. Thanks!

Yes, AMD processors are every bit as reliable as Intel. The only place they lose out is in pure gaming speed.

I think your build is fine and a 6-core processor as opposed to a 4 core won't make any real difference in gaming.

FX 6300 > a 750k. The lack of L3 cache hurts gaming performance significantly.

 

[8350rocks]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xrej
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xrej/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xrej/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ECS A970M-A DELUXE v1.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($65.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Gigabyte GZ-F5HEB ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.12 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $570.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 16:37 EST-0500)

Try that, for $10 more than your $560 max budget, you can get the HD 7850, which will be a massive boost in your gaming performance.

 

[Cardinals21]

AMD are very reliable, just make sure you snap on a CPU Cooler. I don't think there is a CPU upgrade for you. FM2+ is already out, I think and there are new (quad-core) Steamroller based APUs coming out this year...

What is FM2+ everyone is talking about? Is it a new version of the FM2 motherboard and why is it so important?

FM2+ is a new socket. FM2 chips will work in FM2+ boards but FM2+ CPU's will not work in FM2. For all intents and purposes FM2 is a dead socket in a couple months or so.

AMD are very reliable, just make sure you snap on a CPU Cooler. I don't think there is a CPU upgrade for you. FM2+ is already out, I think and there are new (quad-core) Steamroller based APUs coming out this year...

What is FM2+ everyone is talking about? Is it a new version of the FM2 motherboard and why is it so important?

FM2+ is the next generation of the FM2 socket. Getting it would make you slightly more future proof for the next generation of AMD CPUs.

Ok so is F2+ out yet so I can go ahead and use it or is t not out yet ad I will just have to wait?

 

[logainofhades]

You can get FM2+ motherboards now. The problem is the performance of FM2+ cpu's is unknown still and the 750k is inferior to an FX 6300.

 

[PandaBear270]

The AMD FX 4350 is a beast for gaming and the price is ridiculous. I reccomend it hardly.

 

[jaguarskx]

FX 6300 > a 750k. The lack of L3 cache hurts gaming performance significantly.

Additionally, the FX-6300 uses the current PileDriver CPU architecture while the AMD Athlon X4 750k is based on a derivative of the older Bulldozer CPU architecture. In fact, all AMD APU generations (Llano, Trinity, and Richland) are all based on a modified Bulldozer core.

 

[logainofhades]

Llano was actually Phenom II (K10) based. Trinity and Richland are Piledriver based. Richland just has 2133 memory support and a refreshed IGP along with higher clocks.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Llano.html
http://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Trinity.html
http://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Richland.html

 

[sora]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xrej
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xrej/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xrej/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ECS A970M-A DELUXE v1.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($65.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Gigabyte GZ-F5HEB ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.12 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $570.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 16:37 EST-0500)

Try that, for $10 more than your $560 max budget, you can get the HD 7850, which will be a massive boost in your gaming performance.

This, but he can stay with four cores if he wants as it won't really affect gaming performance.

 

[jaguarskx]

Llano was actually Phenom II (K10) based. Trinity and Richland are Piledriver based. Richland just has 2133 memory support and a refreshed IGP along with higher clocks.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Llano.html
http://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Trinity.html
http://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Richland.html

I suppose I am used to looking at the mobile versions of the AMD APUs. The mobile version of Trinity and Richland are based on a Bulldozer derivative while Llano is based on Barcelona.


http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-A-Series-A10-5750M-Notebook-Processor.92882.0.html

 

[logainofhades]

Yea, Intel and AMD both fail with their naming conventions between mobile and desktop. :lol:

 

[Lessthannil]

Reliable? Yes.
Good? Well... you decide.

 

[Cardinals21]

AMD are very reliable, just make sure you snap on a CPU Cooler. I don't think there is a CPU upgrade for you. FM2+ is already out, I think and there are new (quad-core) Steamroller based APUs coming out this year...

What is FM2+ everyone is talking about? Is it a new version of the FM2 motherboard and why is it so important?

FM2+ is a new socket. FM2 chips will work in FM2+ boards but FM2+ CPU's will not work in FM2. For all intents and purposes FM2 is a dead socket in a couple months or so.

You can get FM2+ motherboards now. The problem is the performance of FM2+ cpu's is unknown still and the 750k is inferior to an FX 6300.

How do I know if it is an FM2+ or an FM2?

 

[logainofhades]

In the description of the motherboard, it will specify what socket it has.

 

[jaguarskx]

Here's a list of 8 socket FM2+ mobos from Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007625%20600469846&IsNodeId=1&name=FM2%2b