Are PCIe NVMe solid states the way to go?

[johnneckerman]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

 

[jacobweaver800]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

NVMe SSD's do run really warm. Before you get an NVMe drive you need to check with the manufacturer and make sure the open M.2 slot supports NVMe, it may just be sata in other words you would have to get a normal M.2 ssd.

 

[USAFRet]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

First, you need to determine what type of drive your m.2 port will actually take.
NVMe, or SATA, or either.

 

[johnneckerman]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

NVMe SSD's do run really warm. Before you get an NVMe drive you need to check with the manufacturer and make sure the open M.2 slot supports NVMe, it may just be sata in other words you would have to get a normal M.2 ssd.

I'm pretty sure it's a compatible slot. It's an Acer Nitro 5 an515-51. I emailed the Acer directly to ask and they never got back to me (surprise surprise) but I'm pretty sure it's compatible.

Lolll first time I read it I thought you said they didn't run warm. But do they just run warm, or do they run like, HOT. If it's a little warm, thats not big deal. But 60+ on idle is nuts. the 1050ti that's in the laptop runs at that temp on full load

 

[johnneckerman]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

First, you need to determine what type of drive your m.2 port will actually take.
NVMe, or SATA, or either.

I'm pretty sure it's compatible with PCIe ssd's too. I asked Acer and they never responded, but after doing some reading I think it is. Its an Acer Nitro 5 an515-51

 

[jacobweaver800]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

First, you need to determine what type of drive your m.2 port will actually take.
NVMe, or SATA, or either.

I'm pretty sure it's compatible with PCIe ssd's too. I asked Acer and they never responded, but after doing some reading I think it is. Its an Acer Nitro 5 an515-51

it most likely is, but my laptop doesn't and its like brand new. MVMe drives run hot, I guess I should have worded it. You are going to want to keep it away from the CPU or battery and it should be fine. I have seen them with custom heatsinks already, depending on where the slot on your board is, it may run really hot. Also, a drive is never really "idle" Most drives are constantly checking on little things or moving data around, so just because it wasn't downloading anything doesn't mean it was idle. Check Taskmanager and look at your drive, chances are it will be doing something almost always. But yes, NVMe drives run fairly hot, If the open slot is near the CPU, a dedicated GPU, or close enough to the battery for the heat to effect it, I would go with a Sata M.2 ssd instead of NVMe.

 

[johnneckerman]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

First, you need to determine what type of drive your m.2 port will actually take.
NVMe, or SATA, or either.

I'm pretty sure it's compatible with PCIe ssd's too. I asked Acer and they never responded, but after doing some reading I think it is. Its an Acer Nitro 5 an515-51

it most likely is, but my laptop doesn't and its like brand new. MVMe drives run hot, I guess I should have worded it. You are going to want to keep it away from the CPU or battery and it should be fine. I have seen them with custom heatsinks already, depending on where the slot on your board is, it may run really hot. Also, a drive is never really "idle" Most drives are constantly checking on little things or moving data around, so just because it wasn't downloading anything doesn't mean it was idle. Check Taskmanager and look at your drive, chances are it will be doing something almost always. But yes, NVMe drives run fairly hot, If the open slot is near the CPU, a dedicated GPU, or close enough to the battery for the heat to effect it, I would go with a Sata M.2 ssd instead of NVMe.

If this was going to go into a desktop, i wouldn't be too concerned. I could rig that to cool without a problem. Buuuut going into a laptop means it's going into the slot that's there and that's it. Looks like I'm going with a SATA drive. Which will still be lightyears faster than the garbage drive I was using.

Would you happen to know if M.2 SATAs put off a lot of heat too? I'm assuming alot less, but still

 

[jacobweaver800]

A laptop I recently bought has an open m.2 slot, and I want to drop an ssd into it. I was researching a little to see what I should I get, and I'm stuck. Was planning on getting a PCIe NVMe m.2 ssd because I've read they they're ridiculously fast, and I figure it's good to keep up on the new tech. But I've also read that they run REALLY hot. Like some can idle at 60c +. I feel like putting something that will run that hot into a laptop is probably a bad idea, but I've also seen some laptops coming with those standard. Did I just happen to read reviews of bad products or do they always run that hot?

And, if I decided to pass on the PCIe, would a regular m.2 SATA ssd fit in the same slot, and if so, do regular m.2 SATA's also have heat problems? They look the same, and I read that it should fit, but extra, more direct opinions would be nice.

First, you need to determine what type of drive your m.2 port will actually take.
NVMe, or SATA, or either.

I'm pretty sure it's compatible with PCIe ssd's too. I asked Acer and they never responded, but after doing some reading I think it is. Its an Acer Nitro 5 an515-51

it most likely is, but my laptop doesn't and its like brand new. MVMe drives run hot, I guess I should have worded it. You are going to want to keep it away from the CPU or battery and it should be fine. I have seen them with custom heatsinks already, depending on where the slot on your board is, it may run really hot. Also, a drive is never really "idle" Most drives are constantly checking on little things or moving data around, so just because it wasn't downloading anything doesn't mean it was idle. Check Taskmanager and look at your drive, chances are it will be doing something almost always. But yes, NVMe drives run fairly hot, If the open slot is near the CPU, a dedicated GPU, or close enough to the battery for the heat to effect it, I would go with a Sata M.2 ssd instead of NVMe.

If this was going to go into a desktop, i wouldn't be too concerned. I could rig that to cool without a problem. Buuuut going into a laptop means it's going into the slot that's there and that's it. Looks like I'm going with a SATA drive. Which will still be lightyears faster than the garbage drive I was using.

Would you happen to know if M.2 SATAs put off a lot of heat too? I'm assuming alot less, but still

Both drives put out heat, but the Sata M.2 drives tend to put out a lot less than NVMe. Also, don't expect it to be lightyears fasters, its still Sata 6gb/s but it should be noticeably faster right away.

 

[mdd1963]

If the M.2 slot is only SATA spec or the drive is M.2 SATA, performance would be identical to conventional SATA SSD....about 540 MB/sec reads, max, varies with manufacturer, with Samsung generally on top with 850/860 series, some available in either M.2 SATA or conventional 2.5" SATA drive fomrat, with identical performance....

An M.2 NVME capable slot would still need an M.2 NVME drive to get the greater-than-540 MB/s reads....

A few folks have mistakenly purchased the lowest priced drive w/ "M.2" in the title, not noticing the SATA spec, or lack of NVME in the description....

 

[USAFRet]

A few folks have mistakenly purchased the lowest priced drive w/ "M.2" in the title, not noticing the SATA spec, or lack of NVME in the description....

"A few"?
I see them here almost daily.
At least a lot of them actually ask first. And then get bummed out when their m.2 slot does not have the correct magic sauce

 

[johnneckerman]

If the M.2 slot is only SATA spec or the drive is M.2 SATA, performance would be identical to conventional SATA SSD....about 540 MB/sec reads, max, varies with manufacturer, with Samsung generally on top with 850/860 series, some available in either M.2 SATA or conventional 2.5" SATA drive fomrat, with identical performance....

An M.2 NVME capable slot would still need an M.2 NVME drive to get the greater-than-540 MB/s reads....

A few folks have mistakenly purchased the lowest priced drive w/ "M.2" in the title, not noticing the SATA spec, or lack of NVME in the description....

Hahaha, that would be rage Inducing. I'm pretty sure my laptop supports NVME speed, but if they output heat like I read they do, than it's probably not a great idea for a laptop that has a 1050ti in it that's going to run hot as is.

I do realize the regular m.s ssds are still bottlenecked by sata speeds, but my current harddrive is a 5400 rpm hard disk. Sooooo it'll be lightyears faster than that

 

[jacobweaver800]

If the M.2 slot is only SATA spec or the drive is M.2 SATA, performance would be identical to conventional SATA SSD....about 540 MB/sec reads, max, varies with manufacturer, with Samsung generally on top with 850/860 series, some available in either M.2 SATA or conventional 2.5" SATA drive fomrat, with identical performance....

An M.2 NVME capable slot would still need an M.2 NVME drive to get the greater-than-540 MB/s reads....

A few folks have mistakenly purchased the lowest priced drive w/ "M.2" in the title, not noticing the SATA spec, or lack of NVME in the description....

Hahaha, that would be rage Inducing. I'm pretty sure my laptop supports NVME speed, but if they output heat like I read they do, than it's probably not a great idea for a laptop that has a 1050ti in it that's going to run hot as is.

I do realize the regular m.s ssds are still bottlenecked by sata speeds, but my current harddrive is a 5400 rpm hard disk. Sooooo it'll be lightyears faster than that

It should me much faster, I recently upgraded laptops from a 5400 rpm drive to a Sata M.2 SSD and its way faster. I think you might be expecting a bit more than you might get with a Sata M.2 SSD, but it should be way faster.