Question Are the stock settings of 9800X3D and or 9950X3D Safe for the cpus?

[fedefrasis]

I wanna put a 9800x3d on my x670-e gaming wifi asus board at home, and get a 9950x3d for my work rig
My home rig as a noctua nhd-15s and the work one a Nh-d15
I've been seeing videos suggesting the default is way too high, but ive only really seen cpu deaths on asrock boards and dont use one

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd3iwFTadoo


Would I have to manually power limit one of the cpus or both after getting them with those coolers?
Home Rig (9800x3d goes here)
Mobo: ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI
CPU: Ryzen 7800X3D (current)
GPU: RTX 4080 MSI Gaming Trio X
RAM: 64GB 2x32 xpg 6000mhz cl 30
Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
PSU: XPG Cybercore Platinum 1300w
CASE: NZXT H710i 3 intake fans front, 3 exhaust top, 1 exhaust back

Work Rig (9950x3d goes here)
Mobo: MSI CARBON x870
GPU: RTX 4090 MSI SUPRIM
RAM: 64GB (2 x 32GB) 6000mhz
Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
PSU: XPG Cybercore Platinum 2 1300w
CASE: Corsair Airflow 7000D 3 intake fans front, 1 exhaust back

would any need manual tweaks like the ones on the video or could they safely be run out of the box with only xmp enabled for the memory? Thanks, sorry to bother you guys

 

[TerryLaze]

would any need manual tweaks like the ones on the video or could they safely be run out of the box with only xmp enabled for the memory? Thanks, sorry to bother you guys

Get them, run them, show people actual numbers.
You would need to find someone who has the exact same mobo bios and cpu to tell you without you telling them your numbers.

 

[logainofhades]

The Asrock deaths were due to too high voltage being used when PBO was enabled. Asrock put out a fix for it, and admitted it was entirely their fault.

 

[fedefrasis]

So would these both work fine on the suggested rigs above ON DEFAULTS?

The Asrock deaths were due to too high voltage being used when PBO was enabled. Asrock put out a fix for it, and admitted it was entirely their fault.

 

[logainofhades]

As long as Asus hasn't messed something up again, yes. They had a similar issue with 7800x3d when it was released.

 

[Zerk2012]

A lot of people are using a slight undervolt on those processors and reporting the same or in some instances better performance.

Edit. Youtube has a bunch of guides.

 

[MEMOFLEX]

As mentioned above a common thing to do is to apply a negative offset which can help reduce the voltage and temperatures. I use a -15 offset with mine and it reduced temperatures a little whilst providing higher scores in cinebench. In gaming there is no noticeable performance difference.

My experience with a few 9800x3d systems is that they do seem to run a little hot at idle. Mine sits high 30's and my next door neighbours sits low 40's. Same motherboard cooler and offset. Mine has radiator mounted bringing in cool air compared to his exhausting hot air so that likely is where the difference is. Mine will only hit mid to high 60's with a sustained cinebench run. I use a 360mm AIO.

There are quite a few good guides on how to do this online.

I feel that whilst the ASROCK issues have been well documented there dont seem to be many issues outside of that brand of motherboard so I would not worry about it too much.

 

[fedefrasis]

As mentioned above a common thing to do is to apply a negative offset which can help reduce the voltage and temperatures. I use a -15 offset with mine and it reduced temperatures a little whilst providing higher scores in cinebench. In gaming there is no noticeable performance difference.

My experience with a few 9800x3d systems is that they do seem to run a little hot at idle. Mine sits high 30's and my next door neighbours sits low 40's. Same motherboard cooler and offset. Mine has radiator mounted bringing in cool air compared to his exhausting hot air so that likely is where the difference is. Mine will only hit mid to high 60's with a sustained cinebench run. I use a 360mm AIO.

There are quite a few good guides on how to do this online.

I feel that whilst the ASROCK issues have been well documented there dont seem to be many issues outside of that brand of motherboard so I would not worry about it too much.

Can you link me a good guide to do this

 

[logainofhades]

Can you link me a good guide to do this

TechYesCity I believe has some Ryzen undervolting guides.

 

[fedefrasis]

TechYesCity I believe has some Ryzen undervolting guides.

by how much would i need to do it to be safe? i have no clue about any of this other than just enabling xmp

 

[logainofhades]

Again, only the Asrock boards were causing issues with the 9xxx x3d chips. It was voltage setting baked into their PBO settings, being too aggressive with the voltage.