Are these built in stand offs in my case?

[Wing0]

I posted a thread a while ago about a problem I have, I turn on my computer, a second after it turns off itself. Sometimes it will turn back on itself after it turns off. In my last thread, someone told me I need standoffs. So from what I understand, the purpose of standoffs is to raise the mb up off the wall of the case, so it doesn't touch it. So I didn't install any brass standoffs, but it looks like my case already has standoffs built in. Here is a picture of one:

If you can't tell from the picture, the thing with the hole in it is raised up about half a cm off the board. And, this "standoff" is not the wall of the case, it's a little platform raised up off the wall. You can see through those larger holes, under them is the actual wall of the case.

Something else happened. My computer was in sleep mode, I wanted to turn it off so I pressed the power button (usually it will wake up when I do this) and it just turned off immediately. I just left it, and the next day I turned it on, and the same stuff I had running before it went to sleep started up.

Don't know if it makes any difference if it happens in sleep mode, but may as well let it be known.

 

[Wing0]

I just remembered, I dropped a screw in one of those larger holes, so it's stuck between the wall and the platform that holds the mb. Could that screw be contributing to the problem?

 

[USAFRet]

What does it say in the user manual for the case?

 

[Wing0]

What does it say in the user manual for the case?

Doesn't say a thing about standoffs

 

[USAFRet]

What does it say in the user manual for the case?

Doesn't say a thing about standoffs

What make/model is it?

 

[Wing0]

What does it say in the user manual for the case?

Doesn't say a thing about standoffs

What make/model is it?

ThermalTake vm3000 series v4 black edition

 

[Wing0]

This is so sad I have no words... truly...

I can't be that dumb, can I?

 

[USAFRet]

What does it say in the user manual for the case?

Doesn't say a thing about standoffs

What make/model is it?

ThermalTake vm3000 series v4 black edition

Your motherboard manual: http://www.thermaltake.com/db/pictures/modules/PDT/PDT060207001/VM3000_V4%20Black%20Edition_Manual_10033102.pdf

Page 2, mentions standoffs
Page 7, motherboard installation does not mention standoffs.

When you installed it....was it easy to line up the I/O panel on the back?

 

[Wing0]

What does it say in the user manual for the case?

Doesn't say a thing about standoffs

What make/model is it?

ThermalTake vm3000 series v4 black edition

Your motherboard manual: http://www.thermaltake.com/db/pictures/modules/PDT/PDT060207001/VM3000_V4%20Black%20Edition_Manual_10033102.pdf

Page 2, mentions standoffs
Page 7, motherboard installation does not mention standoffs.

When you installed it....was it easy to line up the I/O panel on the back?

huh, that is my case, but it didn't come with those standoffs. It was easy to line up the mb with the panel.

or it may have, but i screwed them beside the vga plug in.

 

[USAFRet]

If it did not come with them in the screw bag, and if the I/O panel lined up OK.....you are probably OK as far as standoffs are concerned.

Now...on to the actual problem.
I would guess something is shorting out. Possibly that dropped screw you mentioned?

 

[Wing0]

If it did not come with them in the screw bag, and if the I/O panel lined up OK.....you are probably OK as far as standoffs are concerned.

Now...on to the actual problem.
I would guess something is shorting out. Possibly that dropped screw you mentioned?

Well it was happening before I dropped the screw. I do have 1 hole for a screw in my mother board that I can't screw in because there isn't anything to screw it into under the mb. Some how I didn't notice this until just a few days ago, but now that I think about it, this is probably the problem.. im slow in the head 😛

 

[USAFRet]

Well...it does sound like something is shorting out on something that it should not.

Personally, if it were me, I would take it all apart and verify the actual full hardware install.
After all...it's not working correctly now.

 

[Wing0]

Well...it does sound like something is shorting out on something that it should not.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean here. Specifically "something is shorting out on something that it should not"

And would it damage my computer to use it if it's shorting out?

 

[USAFRet]

Well...it does sound like something is shorting out on something that it should not.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean here. Specifically "something is shorting out on something that it should not"

And would it damage my computer to use it if it's shorting out?

If you are having issues with the power off/power on scenario, then maybe something is contacting something it shouldn't. And shorting out
Or maybe your case buttons are incorrect.

In either case, you have to verify all is OK. The easiest way is to take it apart.

If it is shorting out, then yes...you could smoke multiple parts.

 

[Wing0]

Well...it does sound like something is shorting out on something that it should not.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean here. Specifically "something is shorting out on something that it should not"

And would it damage my computer to use it if it's shorting out?

If you are having issues with the power off/power on scenario, then maybe something is contacting something it shouldn't. And shorting out
Or maybe your case buttons are incorrect.

In either case, you have to verify all is OK. The easiest way is to take it apart.

If it is shorting out, then yes...you could smoke multiple parts.

I took it apart and it turns out i was missing 2 screws in the mb, one has a place that it can go into, (like the picture i gave) but the other one is the one i noticed before, underneat there is just a hole, no extrusion. i tried screwing in a standoff in the hole, but it is too small. And my case does say i need a screw in that hole for my mb.

 

[Wing0]

The computer has the same problem with one extra screw, but it seems to have stopped happening so often.

 

[Wing0]

Well...it does sound like something is shorting out on something that it should not.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean here. Specifically "something is shorting out on something that it should not"

And would it damage my computer to use it if it's shorting out?

If you are having issues with the power off/power on scenario, then maybe something is contacting something it shouldn't. And shorting out
Or maybe your case buttons are incorrect.

In either case, you have to verify all is OK. The easiest way is to take it apart.

If it is shorting out, then yes...you could smoke multiple parts.

Sorry for responding late, but I found a standoff that fits in my case, I screwed it in, set everything up, but now I get a blue screen when I start up that shows for only a split second, it says that the pc is going to turn off to avoid damage, or something like that. Then it just goes to that black screen where it asks me if I want to go into startup repair or if I want to start the computer normally.
I took the stand off back out, but I still have this new problem.
And, the pc turning off after I turn it on still happens with the stand off.

 

[Wing0]

I noticed that allot of these cylinder shaped bits on my motherboard are loose and bend easily, are these supposed to be like that? If not I must have broken them while struggling to plug in my gpu(never buying a 3 fan gpu again). Asrock should fix it if I send them the mb?