News Arm PC market share won't rise above 13% in 2025 says ABI Research

[Admin]

Arm-based PCs won't enjoy a lot of momentum in 2025, according to a recently published report by ABI Research.

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[redgarl]

There is no way ARM is going to take some marketshare when they fail to impress and are about as efficient than x86 on mobile.

Showing 10-15% better battery life is not significant enough for all the compatibility issues.

 

[bit_user]

There is no way ARM is going to take some marketshare when they fail to impress and are about as efficient than x86 on mobile.

Showing 10-15% better battery life is not significant enough for all the compatibility issues.

This was just the first generation of Oryon and it's still on an older process node. Qualcomm's next ARM PC will use 3rd gen cores. Between that and the maturing Windows/ARM ecosystem, it should be more competitive and generally a more viable option for non-gamers.

The coup de grace would be if they decide to compete on price, which might essentially be MediaTek's strategy. That's when we might finally see some x86 blood in the water.

 

[ekio]

People refusing to see x86 is bound to die and arm is bound to rise are like people who do not understand that on an engineering standpoint, arm is vastly superior.

It’s like defending hard drives vs solid state drives, it’s like defending copper network cables vs fiber optics… like yeah you are attach to your old habits and they are more compatible with the existing ecosystem, but what’s the point to sh!t on their superior successor…?

 

[watzupken]

"Efficient new x86 chips may have blocked Arm's best route to laptop market growth."

I think the above analysis is not the root cause of poor ARM based laptop sales. It is quite obvious that people are not willing to get a laptop running Qualcomm SOC due to (1) compatibility issues, and, (2) price. In any reviews you find out there, the key sticking point they called out is the issue with app compatibility. So for any potential buyers, after reading these reviews, they will naturally avoid it given that x86 looks efficient enough, like, the efficiency is not terrible so that they need to avoid. So efficiency of x86 is more of a tertiary reason why ARM devices are not selling well. The main driver for ARM PC sale is likely going to Apple only for the near future.

 

[redgarl]

People refusing to see x86 is bound to die and arm is bound to rise are like people who do not understand that on an engineering standpoint, arm is vastly superior.

It’s like defending hard drives vs solid state drives, it’s like defending copper network cables vs fiber optics… like yeah you are attach to your old habits and they are more compatible with the existing ecosystem, but what’s the point to sh!t on their superior successor…?

There is absolutely no benefit for ARM.

• x86 is about as efficient, if not more in server workloads
• it is better for compute
• there is less variants of the uarch making it straightforward
• there is no compatibility issues with OSes
• beside cell phones and apple devices, ARM has been a joke

 

[bit_user]

There is absolutely no benefit for ARM.

• x86 is about as efficient, if not more in server workloads
• it is better for compute
• there is less variants of the uarch making it straightforward
• there is no compatibility issues with OSes
• beside cell phones and apple devices, ARM has been a joke

I disagree on pretty much every point, except for the one about Windows/ARM having some remaining compatibility issues (which are likely to affect relatively few users, apart from gamers).

I could list my reasons, but I doubt you care and I've had this argument too many times, before. So, I'll just register my dissent and we can sit back and see how things play out, over the next couple years. If ARM is going to dominate x86, I think it should be pretty apparent by then.