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An observer, had there been one, would have seen relatively little, had
they come to observe the planet Eosia in the aftermath of the year (as
Terrans would know it) 31,132 BC. That was the year that what appeared
to be a fleet of Beastie starships had laid waste to a former
civilization on that planet. Cities that had been home to thriving
communities for thousands of Terran years had burned in nuclear fire.
Forests and agricultural land that had been lovingly cared for over
many centuries were incinerated by multi-gigawatt laser beams.
Billions of people died in the course of a few days, and when the
attack was over, a world was smoldering.

The planet was orbited by two moons, and both had been inhabited for
thousands of years. The innermost moon was attacked by the same fleets
that laid waste to the planet, but the outermost moon was a different
story.

For thousands of years, the outer satellite, a ball of rock and metal
309 miles in diameter, had been the site and home of the government of
a vast, loose association of worlds, a government that had, at its
height, kept the peace between the peoples of over 14,000 planets. In
later times, that moon had been perhaps the most heavily fortified site
in the space controlled by the Eosian Hegemony. So protected had this
moon been that the final destruction that befell the planet Eosia had
largely passed over the moon. When the fleet had departed, its
horrible work complete, Ashtra remained untouched. Its defense shields
still shrouded the moonlet, its surface untouched by the weaponry
deployed in the final battle. Yet it was no less dead than the people
of Eosia.

Where the people of Eosia had been put to the sword (or rather the bomb
and beam), those who were on Ashtra had fallen to a different
weapon...disease. An artificially modified, carefully prepared
disease, which fulfilled its design purpose with ghastly effectiveness.
There were widely scattered survivors on Eosia, there were none on
Ashtra. The disease did, of course, have just a little help.

After the attack fleet departed the Eos System, for a long time an
observer would have seen nothing much change. Ashtra, intact but dead,
circling in orbit around a planet smashed to bits but still living, its
biosphere functioning and with a few living inhabitants yet.
Civilization on Eosia had dropped back to TL0 and TL1 levels, but there
were still widely scattered communities of survivors and their
descendents, living far from the radioactive ruins of their ancestors'
cities and lands.

Time passed, and little would have seemed to change in the perfectly
intact tomb that was Ashtra. Indeed, fully 300 Terran years passed
before the first hint of a change would have been visible in the quiet
of Ashtra. Even then, all that an observer would have seen was a hint
of motion in the empty 'streets' of Ashtra, which was still covered
pole to pole in structures, machines, and facilities that had once been
the bustling center of a galactic government. There were, for the
first time in thee centuries, machines moving in those streets, through
the transfer tubes, along the gravitic chutes, machines that moved
through the vast tomb, and began to gather the mummified bodies that
had lain untouched in those years.

A watcher would have seen those bodies brought by these machines, with
something almost like mechanical reverence, to sealed chambers which
were then flooded with oxygen and chemical fuels, and in contained
infernos, cremated. Not casually or mechanically, but with care, each
body laid carefully atop its mass of fuel and arranged in as dignified
as way as could be.

This task took several Terran years to complete, as the machines, which
were of many sizes and shapes and designs, but all of which worked
smoothly together, gathered the dead from millions of obscure corners
of Ashtra. There were literally millions of bodies to be cremated, and
the care with which these machines did the task made a longer one than
it would otherwise have been.

At last, though, the grisly task was completed. The ashes from the
pyres were gathered, and sealed into containers, and stored away, and
the machines turned to other tasks. With the bodies removed, an entire
moon-covering city of resources lay available, and now these mysterious
machines began to mine these resources, building more machines like
themselves, dismantling and reassembling machines, equipment, and
facilities for other purposes. As time passed, the work accelerated as
more and more machines were created.

About 20 years after the mysterious machines first appeared on Ashtra,
they converted some of the spacecraft that still waited, unused, in
Ashtra's spaceports for their own use, and for the first time in over
300 Terran years, spacecraft again descended from the skies onto the
surface of Eosia.

Some went to the ruins of what had been immense cities. Others visited
the sites of former military bases or other facilities. One set of
ships, cargo ships converted to be flown by robots, flew to the site of
the highest mountain on Eosia, and there the robots brought the
cremated ashes of the dead from Ashtra, burying the containers in a
ring around the mountain peak, as if they wished to use the mountain as
a natural marker.

An observer might have puzzled over all this, but the activity did not
stop. Now an observer would have seen robots gathering materials and
equipment from ruins all over Ashtra, and especially the precious
orichalcum from former power plants and starships and defense
facilities and a thousand other uses across Eosia, and bringing it back
to Ashtra.

On Ashtra, what had been a city spread across the surface of a small
moon was now being transformed into something quite other. Where
buildings and domed pressure habitats had been, now vast manufacturing
complexes were rising. Where administrative facilities for a
government had stretched for mile after mile after mile, now
laboratories, sensor arrays, power plants, and spaceports rose. Even
before, there had been extensive arrays of tunnels and enormous
underground facilities on Ashtra, now those were expanded tremendously,
as robots dug into the crust of the moonlet, sinking immense mines into
the depths, converting the new volume into vast new facilities of a
thousand different kinds, turning the moonlet into a beehive (not that
there had ever been any bees on Eosia or the Eos System) of activity, a
swarm of mechanical motion.

By 30,700 BC, Ashtra bore little resemblance to what it had been in the
days of the Hegemony, and the transformation was continuing. All over
the Eos System, robotic spacecraft were sifting through the vast
wreckage of a civilization that had spanned the system. Useful
resources of many sorts were gathered in to Ashtra, but most especially
every microgram of orichalcum that could be found was gathered and
brought back by the robotic emissaries.

As for why, and what was going on, and where these mysterious robots
came from...MORE LATER.
Shermanlee
 
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Whoo hoo ! I wondered when the big supercomputer would wake up.

Certainly Nemesis would see this activity, no ? I do not doubt it left
scouts and spy platforms behind.

Also, what about the Eosians survivors ? Are there still any left after
all this time? I'm remembering that there was also a population of
(much faster breeding, better naturally armed, insinctually huminoid
hunting) beasties left ...

-- Pat

shermanlee1@hotmail.com wrote:
> An observer, had there been one, would have seen relatively little, had
> they come to observe the planet Eosia in the aftermath of the year (as
> Terrans would know it) 31,132 BC. That was the year that what appeared
> to be a fleet of Beastie starships had laid waste to a former
> civilization on that planet. Cities that had been home to thriving
> communities for thousands of Terran years had burned in nuclear fire.
> Forests and agricultural land that had been lovingly cared for over
> many centuries were incinerated by multi-gigawatt laser beams.
> Billions of people died in the course of a few days, and when the
> attack was over, a world was smoldering.
>
> The planet was orbited by two moons, and both had been inhabited for
> thousands of years. The innermost moon was attacked by the same fleets
> that laid waste to the planet, but the outermost moon was a different
> story.
>
> For thousands of years, the outer satellite, a ball of rock and metal
> 309 miles in diameter, had been the site and home of the government of
> a vast, loose association of worlds, a government that had, at its
> height, kept the peace between the peoples of over 14,000 planets. In
> later times, that moon had been perhaps the most heavily fortified site
> in the space controlled by the Eosian Hegemony. So protected had this
> moon been that the final destruction that befell the planet Eosia had
> largely passed over the moon. When the fleet had departed, its
> horrible work complete, Ashtra remained untouched. Its defense shields
> still shrouded the moonlet, its surface untouched by the weaponry
> deployed in the final battle. Yet it was no less dead than the people
> of Eosia.
>
> Where the people of Eosia had been put to the sword (or rather the bomb
> and beam), those who were on Ashtra had fallen to a different
> weapon...disease. An artificially modified, carefully prepared
> disease, which fulfilled its design purpose with ghastly effectiveness.
> There were widely scattered survivors on Eosia, there were none on
> Ashtra. The disease did, of course, have just a little help.
>
> After the attack fleet departed the Eos System, for a long time an
> observer would have seen nothing much change. Ashtra, intact but dead,
> circling in orbit around a planet smashed to bits but still living, its
> biosphere functioning and with a few living inhabitants yet.
> Civilization on Eosia had dropped back to TL0 and TL1 levels, but there
> were still widely scattered communities of survivors and their
> descendents, living far from the radioactive ruins of their ancestors'
> cities and lands.
>
> Time passed, and little would have seemed to change in the perfectly
> intact tomb that was Ashtra. Indeed, fully 300 Terran years passed
> before the first hint of a change would have been visible in the quiet
> of Ashtra. Even then, all that an observer would have seen was a hint
> of motion in the empty 'streets' of Ashtra, which was still covered
> pole to pole in structures, machines, and facilities that had once been
> the bustling center of a galactic government. There were, for the
> first time in thee centuries, machines moving in those streets, through
> the transfer tubes, along the gravitic chutes, machines that moved
> through the vast tomb, and began to gather the mummified bodies that
> had lain untouched in those years.
>
> A watcher would have seen those bodies brought by these machines, with
> something almost like mechanical reverence, to sealed chambers which
> were then flooded with oxygen and chemical fuels, and in contained
> infernos, cremated. Not casually or mechanically, but with care, each
> body laid carefully atop its mass of fuel and arranged in as dignified
> as way as could be.
>
> This task took several Terran years to complete, as the machines, which
> were of many sizes and shapes and designs, but all of which worked
> smoothly together, gathered the dead from millions of obscure corners
> of Ashtra. There were literally millions of bodies to be cremated, and
> the care with which these machines did the task made a longer one than
> it would otherwise have been.
>
> At last, though, the grisly task was completed. The ashes from the
> pyres were gathered, and sealed into containers, and stored away, and
> the machines turned to other tasks. With the bodies removed, an entire
> moon-covering city of resources lay available, and now these mysterious
> machines began to mine these resources, building more machines like
> themselves, dismantling and reassembling machines, equipment, and
> facilities for other purposes. As time passed, the work accelerated as
> more and more machines were created.
>
> About 20 years after the mysterious machines first appeared on Ashtra,
> they converted some of the spacecraft that still waited, unused, in
> Ashtra's spaceports for their own use, and for the first time in over
> 300 Terran years, spacecraft again descended from the skies onto the
> surface of Eosia.
>
> Some went to the ruins of what had been immense cities. Others visited
> the sites of former military bases or other facilities. One set of
> ships, cargo ships converted to be flown by robots, flew to the site of
> the highest mountain on Eosia, and there the robots brought the
> cremated ashes of the dead from Ashtra, burying the containers in a
> ring around the mountain peak, as if they wished to use the mountain as
> a natural marker.
>
> An observer might have puzzled over all this, but the activity did not
> stop. Now an observer would have seen robots gathering materials and
> equipment from ruins all over Ashtra, and especially the precious
> orichalcum from former power plants and starships and defense
> facilities and a thousand other uses across Eosia, and bringing it back
> to Ashtra.
>
> On Ashtra, what had been a city spread across the surface of a small
> moon was now being transformed into something quite other. Where
> buildings and domed pressure habitats had been, now vast manufacturing
> complexes were rising. Where administrative facilities for a
> government had stretched for mile after mile after mile, now
> laboratories, sensor arrays, power plants, and spaceports rose. Even
> before, there had been extensive arrays of tunnels and enormous
> underground facilities on Ashtra, now those were expanded tremendously,
> as robots dug into the crust of the moonlet, sinking immense mines into
> the depths, converting the new volume into vast new facilities of a
> thousand different kinds, turning the moonlet into a beehive (not that
> there had ever been any bees on Eosia or the Eos System) of activity, a
> swarm of mechanical motion.
>
> By 30,700 BC, Ashtra bore little resemblance to what it had been in the
> days of the Hegemony, and the transformation was continuing. All over
> the Eos System, robotic spacecraft were sifting through the vast
> wreckage of a civilization that had spanned the system. Useful
> resources of many sorts were gathered in to Ashtra, but most especially
> every microgram of orichalcum that could be found was gathered and
> brought back by the robotic emissaries.
>
> As for why, and what was going on, and where these mysterious robots
> came from...MORE LATER.
> Shermanlee
>
 
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Patrick Spinler wrote:
> Whoo hoo ! I wondered when the big supercomputer would wake up.

Right you are.

>
> Certainly Nemesis would see this activity, no ? I do not doubt it
left
> scouts and spy platforms behind.

I'll be getting to that. Remember, it's a big Galaxy, and NEMESIS
can't operate in real time across interstellar distances.

>
> Also, what about the Eosians survivors ? Are there still any left
after
> all this time? I'm remembering that there was also a population of
> (much faster breeding, better naturally armed, insinctually huminoid
> hunting) beasties left ...

I'll be getting to that, too. :)
Shermanlee
 
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shermanlee1@hotmail.com writes:


>Where the people of Eosia had been put to the sword (or rather the bomb
>and beam), those who were on Ashtra had fallen to a different
>weapon...disease.

Lung cancer, or emphysema?


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jmbay@Stanford.EDU (Joseph Michael Bay) abagooba zoink larblortch
news:crl08u$c1f$1@news.Stanford.EDU:

> shermanlee1@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
>>Where the people of Eosia had been put to the sword (or rather the bomb
>>and beam), those who were on Ashtra had fallen to a different
>>weapon...disease.
>
> Lung cancer, or emphysema?

Airborne herpes?
 
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On 5 Jan 2005 20:08:23 -0800, shermanlee1@hotmail.com carved upon a
tablet of ether:

> An observer, had there been one, would have seen relatively little, had
> they come to observe the planet Eosia in the aftermath of the year (as
> Terrans would know it) 31,132 BC...

Woo whoo! I was wondering when we'd get the next exciting installment.
Great stuff.


--
Rupert Boleyn <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz>
"Just because the truth will set you free doesn't mean the truth itself
should be free."
 
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Il 5 Jan 2005 20:08:23 -0800 Era Volgare nel rec.games.frp.gurps,
shermanlee1@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>As for why, and what was going on, and where these mysterious robots
>came from...MORE LATER.

very good

thank you

--
ciao, fabio
 
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Ah, here we go. More of the series. Cool.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
 
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Johnny1a wrote:
> shermanlee1@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> Now that AI had some serious 'hands'.
> MORE LATER.
>
> Shermanlee

As already told, ARNETHIS gathered the corpses from all over Ashtra, as
reverently as it could manage under the circumstances, and laid them to
rest as respectfully as could be managed, under the circumstances.
Then it began to transform the moonlet from a former headquarters of an
interstellar confederacy into a fortress and manufacturing complex,
designed and constructed to be a perfect tool for the artificial
entity.

As it did this, ARNETHIS also explored the Eos System anew, looking for
any sign of surviving intelligence. It did not take ARNETHIS long to
learn that there were indeed surviving Homosentients on both Eosia (Eos
IV) and Eos V. Civilization had been blasted back to primitive
conditions, but there were still people on both worlds. As the machine
observed more closely, through robotic flying machines and ground
devices, it determined that most of them were the _H. eostellaris_
species 'native' to the Eos System, but some of the other species who
had come to the two worlds during the star flight age still endured as
well, there were small groups of other Homosentient species present.

Still, ARNETHIS estimated that the combined Homosentient population of
both worlds did not exceed 50 million, where teeming tens of billions
had lived on each world previously. In no case did the AI observe any
indications of a technical base higher than TL2, and in many cases they
seem to be operating much lower, barely TL1, in fact.

There were also still surviving Beasties on each world, likewise
retrogressed technologically. ARNETHIS, for its part, was puzzled that
the Beasties, given their tremendous breeding rate, had not overrun the
Homosentients, but as it continued to observe, it noted without
understanding why that that breeding rate of the Beasties seemed to
have slowed inexplicably, to levels low enough that the Homosentients
had a chance of coping with them. [1]

ARNETHIS did not know exactly what it should do about this. Should it
make contact with these descendants of its creators? Could such
contact even be safely made, given the apparently level of their
understanding of the world? What would be the best thing to do?

Back and forth the AI went on these matters, lacking the necessary
experience and mortal perspective to properly judge the matter. It
also decided that if there were survivors in the Eos System, there were
probably survivors elsewhere. It needed more information, but it took
some time to work out a practical way to get that data.

One nagging problem the Hegemony had never fully solved was real-time
interstellar communication. Though they most certainly that FTL com
systems, their range was so limited that they could not bridge the gap
between the stars. The old psicoms _could_ do that, but ARNETHIS had
no psionic abilities, and the secrets of how the psicoms worked (always
closely guarded) appeared not to be stored in any files accessible to
the AI, anyway. The only other way to send information at FTL
velocities known to the Hegemony had been to send a starship.

That was well and good, and it was certainly within the abilities of
ARNETHIS to construct a starship, given the massive new manufacturing
facilities and vast datafiles it had access to, and it had two worlds
of high-tech wreckage to scour for orichalcum, providing more than
enough for a modest fleet of interstellar spacecraft.

The problem was that there was no crew!

Automated interstellar travel had been attempted by the Hegemony, but
it had never been very successful. Even TL10 computers could not match
the judgement of a sapient being (ARNETHIS was the only true AI the
Hegemony ever produced). While automated starships sometimes
successfully completed their voyages, they had never been very
reliable, and the degree of automation necessary for an uncrewed
starship was usually at least as expensive as the cost of training and
supporting a crew.

ARNETHIS could not create AI system on its own, it did not really or
fully understand how it itself how come into being. Unlike the mystery
enemy that ARNETHIS had been shadowboxing since before the Beastie War
broke out, ARNETHIS had no way to create smaller versions of itself to
work 'on site'. [2]

ARNETHIS was also deeply concerned about the nature and status of that
mysterious enemy that had sent its robots to infiltrate the Hegemony,
before the start of the Beastie War. Before the end, ARNETHIS had
discovered the miniature on-site AIs that supervised those robots, and
learned that they were actually living machines, a form of Heliagen
life.

At first, ARNETHIS had concluded that some Homosentient rebel or
troublemaker had discovered a way to built living AI computers based on
helium life, and was using the technology in the mysterious plot that
had been undermining the Hegemony when ARNETHIS discerned it. With
plenty of time since the end of the Beastie War to reflect, though,
ARNETHIS was increasingly convinced that no Homosentient (and for that
matter no Beastie) had ever created those bizarre alien biomachines.

The technology of the helium-things, and the more conventional
technology that had gone into the robots, while not _incomprehensibly_
more advanced than Hegemonic technology, had been somewhat ahead of the
cutting edge of Homosentient work. Further, ARNETHIS had learned to
recognize something of the 'style' of various kinds of engineering
work, and the design work on those robots had simply not been the sort
of thing a Homosentient mind would be likely to produce. It had a
genuinely alien quality.

With plenty of time to ponder the matter, ARNETHIS concluded that it
was too much of a coincidence that the Beasties were created shortly
after the robots started infiltrating the Hegemony, and as it poured
over the records the AI retained from the War, it began to see the
pattern of some entity playing the Beasties and the Homosentients
against each other, helping each one, then hindering, maximizing the
destruction on both sides and extending the war year after year after
bloody year.

There was still a lot of wreckage in the Eos System from that last
horrible battle, and when ARNETHIS studied the wreckage, it found what
it had suspected it would find: the same technology that had gone into
the infiltrator-robots had gone into the fake Beastie fleet, albeit
under some degree of disguise. Eventually, ARNETHIS's own robots
found what the AI was sure it would: in a relatively complete wreck of
one of the pseudo-Beastie ships, the remains of one of the living
Heliagen computers was discovered. This was essentially a clinching
proof.

ARNETHIS now knew that the same mystery-entity that had infiltrated the
Hegemony had played the Homosentients against the Beasties, and then
truck from concealment to wipe out civilization on two worlds, and
certainly more, since no ships had arrived from outside in centuries.
ARNETHIS also realized, with terrible certainty, that this mysterious
enemy was all but certainly still out there...somewhere.

That realization put a new urgency on the question of what to do about
the survivors on Eosia and Eos V, and the potential survivors
elsewhere. ARNETHIS already knew that there was surely many Beasties
left in the Galaxy, a huge potential threat. Now it realized that this
mysterious enemy still existed, and ARNETHIS computed that it
represented an even larger threat, at least in potential. [3]

The converging chains of calculation and guesswork led the AI to a
deeply unnerving, very daunting realization: under the current
circumstances (civiliation in ruins, and the very real possibility that
no high-tech Homosentients remained) it was more than likely that the
AI was the only thing left standing between the Homosentients and
genocide brought about by whatever mysterious enemy had been plagueing
them for centuries. [4]

MORE LATER.

Shermanlee

[1] The result, of course, of the Helialisks' secret intervention
centuries earlier, though ARNETHIS had no way of knowing that, or even
of knowing that the Helialisks existed.

[2] The 'mystery enemy' was of course NEMESIS, though ARNETHIS did not
know this even yet.

[3] Of course, ARNETHIS had no clue just HOW large a threat the
mysterious enemy potentially represented just yet, or how ancient the
danger was.
 
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Johnny1a wrote:
> [1] The result, of course, of the Helialisks' secret intervention
> centuries earlier, though ARNETHIS had no way of knowing that, or even
> of knowing that the Helialisks existed.
>
> [2] The 'mystery enemy' was of course NEMESIS, though ARNETHIS did not
> know this even yet.
>
> [3] Of course, ARNETHIS had no clue just HOW large a threat the
> mysterious enemy potentially represented just yet, or how ancient the
> danger was.
>

IIRC, ARNETHIS is massively outclassed by NEMISIS, although it doesn't
know this yet. Not only in available resources and technology level,
but even in pure thinking capacity. IIRC, NEMISIS was mature TL11 vrs
ARNETHIS's TL10, and quite a bit physically larger (e.g. more capacity)
to boot. That's not even counting the capacity of all the NEMISIS buddings.

This story is developing as a serious underdog struggle. Fun!

-- Pat
 
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On 3 Feb 2005 21:18:45 -0800, "Johnny1a" <shermanlee1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

<snip>

>The converging chains of calculation and guesswork led the AI to a
>deeply unnerving, very daunting realization: under the current
>circumstances (civiliation in ruins, and the very real possibility that
>no high-tech Homosentients remained) it was more than likely that the
>AI was the only thing left standing between the Homosentients and
>genocide brought about by whatever mysterious enemy had been plagueing
>them for centuries. [4]
>
>MORE LATER.

Including footnote #4, I hope...?

--
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"And really, you think people who watch Japanese cartoons would be a
little more understanding of the seemingly odd hobbies of other fringe
groups." - Chris "Blade" McNeil on rec.arts.anime.misc, 20 Jan 2004
 
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Rob Kelk wrote:
> On 3 Feb 2005 21:18:45 -0800, "Johnny1a" <shermanlee1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >The converging chains of calculation and guesswork led the AI to a
> >deeply unnerving, very daunting realization: under the current
> >circumstances (civiliation in ruins, and the very real possibility
that
> >no high-tech Homosentients remained) it was more than likely that
the
> >AI was the only thing left standing between the Homosentients and
> >genocide brought about by whatever mysterious enemy had been
plagueing
> >them for centuries. [4]
> >
> >MORE LATER.
>
> Including footnote #4, I hope...?

Oops, sorry 'bout that! Not a big one, though, just a reminder of how
little ARNETHIS had yet learned, at that point in time.

[4] Again, ARNETHIS had no conception just how far back the threat
really went, or how long the war it had been drafted/born into went
back into the depths of time.

Shermanlee
 
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Right you are, ARNETHIS is definitely David to NEMESIS' Goliath, and to
make it worse, in this case 'David' only knows that
an enemy exists, nothing about its nature. Of course, NEMESIS doesn't
know about ARNETHIS yet, either. They've sensed and interfered with
each other's _activities_ to some degree, but as yet they've not come
into direct contact of any sort.

NEMESIS does have a vastly larger resource base, and in most ways
greater abilities than ARNETHIS, but ARNETHIS does have a couple of
advantages that will appear later. In short, 'David' has a sling, or
the potential to create one. Whether he will realize this in time, and
be able to put the ability to use...we shall see.


Shermanlee
 
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Il 3 Feb 2005 21:18:45 -0800 Era Volgare nel rec.games.frp.gurps,
"Johnny1a" <shermanlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The converging chains of calculation and guesswork led the AI to a
>deeply unnerving, very daunting realization: under the current
>circumstances (civiliation in ruins, and the very real possibility that
>no high-tech Homosentients remained) it was more than likely that the
>AI was the only thing left standing between the Homosentients and
>genocide brought about by whatever mysterious enemy had been plagueing
>them for centuries. [4]
>
>MORE LATER.

very interesting :)

thanks and thanks and thanks

--
ciao, fabio
 
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Johnny1a wrote:

> The problem was that there was no crew!
>
> Automated interstellar travel had been attempted by the Hegemony, but
> it had never been very successful. Even TL10 computers could not
match
> the judgement of a sapient being (ARNETHIS was the only true AI the
> Hegemony ever produced). While automated starships sometimes
> successfully completed their voyages, they had never been very
> reliable, and the degree of automation necessary for an uncrewed
> starship was usually at least as expensive as the cost of training
and
> supporting a crew.
>
> ARNETHIS could not create AI system on its own, it did not really or
> fully understand how it itself how come into being. Unlike the
mystery
> enemy that ARNETHIS had been shadowboxing since before the Beastie
War
> broke out, ARNETHIS had no way to create smaller versions of itself
to
> work 'on site'. [2]

ARNETHIS had no ready to way to 'crew' a starship, so eventually the AI
opted to build a starship that it could crew personally. Drawing upon
the vast databases in its memory, it was not a great difficulty for
ARNETHIS to design, and its automated factories and robots to
construct, a starship customized for the special requirements of the
AI.

This vessel was large, compared to the large majority of the Hegemonic
starships of a few centuries before, but unusual in several respects.
It had only very limited life-support facilities, because it was not
planned for operation by a Homosentient or other biological crew.
There were a few chambers that could be pressurized and supported for
the comfort of Homosentients or other life-forms, just in case the need
should arise, but for the most part the new starship was purely
automated.

Extensive networks of dedicated computers and onboard robots were the
'crew' of the craft, and the information web was centered on a special
chamber deep within the starship. There, ARNETHIS could transfer its
primary biocore, the living neuroprocessor macroframe that houses its
conscious intelligence. ARNETHIS would then interface with the
computer network of the starship, and not merely operate the ship, but
in a sense actually _become_ the ship.

There was a price, of course. While ARNETHIS could transfer its
biocore to the starship, it necessarily left behind the vast arrays of
supercomputers and memory arrays and support equipment that amplified
its intelligence. When ARNETHIS was a starship, it was less
intelligent than it was when it was a planetoid, and the automated
planetoid-fortress it left behind had no consciousness until ARNETHIS
returned.

This was risky. While ARNETHIS could certainly leave the controlling
supercomputers of the planetoid with extensive orders and programming,
covering multiple contingencies, the lack of conscious judgement
inevitably made the planetoid somewhat vulnerable. Still, there was
little alternative. ARNETHIS needed information from beyond the Eos
System, and this was the only practical way to obtain that information.

It took about a Terran decade to design and construct the new starship.
The first time the AI's biocore was transferred was inevitably a trick
procedure, since problems inevitably arose that had not been
anticipated. The work went well enough to be considered a success,
though, and ARNETHIS put its new mobile body-ship through a long series
of space trials. Between these trial runs, the transfers back and
forth from its original operational core-vault to and from the starship
became routine. After sufficient space trials to satisfy ARNETHIS that
the ship was at least acceptably capable, came the acid test: star
flight.

There was no way to test the spacecraft over interstellar distances
except to do it, to actually make the voyage. The AI made a series of
junkets into interstellar space, over increasing distances, until
eventually it decided that it was time to actually make the first star
run. This journey, the AI decided, would take it to visit first the
nearest star to Eos, and then, if all went well, to the nearest star
system that had been known to be inhabited, prior to the Final Assault.

MORE LATER.

Shermanlee
 
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Johnny1a wrote:
> Johnny1a wrote:
>
> (Look, it's a bird, it's a spaceship, it's ARNETHIS !)

An interesting solution, and one I'd not have thought of.

Did Arnethis consider recruiting and training any of the surviving
homeosentiants from Eos surface? Certainly if recruited young enough, a
bit more than a decade of education should have sufficed to make a new
generation of young technocrats, and perhaps even make a tiny start at
rebuilding a self supporting technological civilization. Certainly
enough to crew a starship or two. Or alternately keep the moon running.

-- Pat
 
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Patrick Spinler wrote:
> Johnny1a wrote:
> > Johnny1a wrote:
> >
> > (Look, it's a bird, it's a spaceship, it's ARNETHIS !)
>
> An interesting solution, and one I'd not have thought of.
>
> Did Arnethis consider recruiting and training any of the surviving
> homeosentiants from Eos surface? Certainly if recruited young
enough, a
> bit more than a decade of education should have sufficed to make a
new
> generation of young technocrats, and perhaps even make a tiny start
at
> rebuilding a self supporting technological civilization. Certainly
> enough to crew a starship or two. Or alternately keep the moon
running.
>
> -- Pat


I was wondering that, myself.

Very glad to see this continued, Johnny1a.
 
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Prince Charon wrote:
> Patrick Spinler wrote:
> > Johnny1a wrote:
> > > Johnny1a wrote:
> > >
> > > (Look, it's a bird, it's a spaceship, it's ARNETHIS !)
> >
> > An interesting solution, and one I'd not have thought of.
> >
> > Did Arnethis consider recruiting and training any of the surviving
> > homeosentiants from Eos surface? Certainly if recruited young
> enough, a
> > bit more than a decade of education should have sufficed to make a
> new
> > generation of young technocrats, and perhaps even make a tiny start
> at
> > rebuilding a self supporting technological civilization. Certainly
> > enough to crew a starship or two. Or alternately keep the moon
> running.
> >
> > -- Pat
>
>
> I was wondering that, myself.
>
> Very glad to see this continued, Johnny1a.

It could do that, and it considered it, but there were various factors
that held it back. For one thing, ARNETHIS has never raised a child,
ever. It doesn't know if it knows how to do it adequately enough to
produce a capable and _loyal_ crew.

Also, the AI had a moral sense, one shaped in much by the morals of the
society in which it had been 'born', (like any Homosentient), and it
had moral qualms about raising children to be its soldiers and spacers,
more or less. Recruiting adults would be one thing, but taking small
children and raising them with that goal in mind was somnething else
entirely.

Even without the threat of the unknown foe (NEMESIS), ARNETHIS had been
in doubt about what it should do with regards to the descendents of the
survivors of the Final Assault. It was not sure if it would be acting
immorally by interfering, or if _not_ interfering would be the immoral
thing. The presence of the Threat complicated that enormously.

Shermanlee