It's reasons like this is why sound cards are becoming like ethernet cards for a lot of people: Really don't need or want to install one till the onboard fails.
@TheBigTroll
Though you're right that aftermarket codecs offer far more and better quality sound, it all comes at a price. fact of the matter is, onboard audio have become (like PCs made in the last 3-4 years) good enough for most people to have no-incentive to spend big bucks to upgrade.
It is unquestionably appropriate, as well as awesome, that mobo manufacturers are realizing that there are audiophiles among us enthusiasts. More options is not a bad thing.
About time manufactures figured out the world needs to hear the sound the way it was meant to be. I have run a dedicated audio card for years and would of never considered on-board audio as a solution till Gigabyte started with the 3d recon on its super high end boards a generation ago. Now when, and if they keep this as an option, I build another system I may do on board audio.
I support that they're trying, but they've got two problems:
1) This really isn't that much of an upgrade from normal onboard sound.
2) It's not going to find it's way onto mATX and mini-ITX boards where it would actually be a selling point.
I support that they're trying, but they've got two problems:
1) This really isn't that much of an upgrade from normal onboard sound.
2) It's not going to find it's way onto mATX and mini-ITX boards where it would actually be a selling point.
AsRock Is known for being low cost. I totally agree with every thing you have said but I just want to say that AsRock's major selling point is price. If they make it too good and add super high quality audio then they lose what edge they have which is cost for us budget challenged builders.
You're certainly correct that one of their selling points is cost, but having good audio on their high end boards and their specialty boards could be a very good thing.
Options are optional, but for commoners like me, standard on board audio is enough, especially when I would rather spend money on SSDs or a better graphics card.
fact of the matter is, onboard audio have become (like PCs made in the last 3-4 years) good enough for most people to have no-incentive to spend big bucks to upgrade.
And if GT3e delivers, it may be the beginning of the end for low/low-midrange GPUs, which is just about everyone who does not have esoteric display or somewhat serious gaming requirements.
The thing that bugs me about on-board audio is that unless your mixed-signal engineers or CODEC suck, there is no reason for on-board audio to actually suck at least THD+N wise... all it takes is a little bit more effort on PCB layout and maybe $2 in extra/better parts. The most important things you need are a good CODEC, a section of properly isolated ground+power planes for the analog side with proper decoupling and filtering.
This is a lot like the difference between a 'good' and a 'bad' PSU: minor detail tweaks in the overall design, $2 on better components and you get a PSU that lasts 7-10 years instead of 1-4. All this corner-cutting is pretty bad for the environment and for people's wallets.
as long as the price is still good, it is nice that they are trying to add more value to their products.
personally, i like asrock. but i dont like 3d recon, no thanks creative.. your drivers were a head ache
This is good, although I prefer a dedicated sound card just because when I built my rig my dealings with onboard sound havent been all too great, the difference between onboard and a dedicated card is unreal.
Now.. it they can somehow squeeze everything a dedicated card offers onto the mobo with no loss in quality then im all for it.
The way I see it is there more of a demand now for 5.1 sound systems so Asrock wants to cater to the demand..But it don't matter how good they might think there onboard system is it still won't be as good as a dedicated sound card. Every time I hear someone bragging about onboard sound I can remember how mine sounded like....snap crackle pop....
Every time I hear someone bragging about onboard sound I can remember how mine sounded like....snap crackle pop....
Not all boards are created equal and not everyone has the same requirements either.
Personally, I have been more than happy enough with on-board sound on my Asus P5Q and current P8H77 - no point in getting a sound system that vastly outperforms ambient noise under normal listening conditions even with headphones on.