asrock extreme 4 gen 3 mobo ,is it dead ?

[vanniko63]

i recently building new pc so i tool the water loop from asrock added to new build so i installed stock fan , on cpu , when i went to try out pc . it starts and fan spin , but i get no beep or do my led sequence light turn on to go threw sequence ,of start , can it be cmos issue or just dead mobo if so who did it go dead .

 

[cin19]

Try clear the CMOS by the jumper, and try boot again. Also are there any error LED code? I think it is the CMOS issue, because you change to air cooler from the water cooler.

 

[vanniko63]

no i have not cleared cmos , i will look up how to jump . but i do recall that cmos on this board is very sesitive and i learned not to mess with it , and there is no led ,reading right now i have board out and will attempt .will bench test it . but changing cpu cooling have such a affect on this board , i had this board for yaers has not let me down till now . not seeing the lights or a beep . has me concerned for its life .

 

[vanniko63]

let me ask this if i put back corsair h2 cooler will it come back to life?

 

[cin19]

i put back corsair h2 cooler will it come back to life?

That is other method to test the MB too, when you change the hardware sometime you have to clear the CMOS let the pc to recognize new hardware.
To clear the CMOS, you will only mess up the BIOS setting like the boot order, etc.

 

[vanniko63]

with out power i jumped cmos pin 12 to 23 waited and put back , this time i took out the memory cards , to insure i get beep , turned on and same fan spins no beep no led read out .
did i do it right? i looked up on you tube and that was what i saw , this time i will remove batt and see .

 

[vanniko63]

i added power , and hit the rest button nothing , i hit the cmos button a little something was not convinced so i hit the external cmos button and shut down the mobo and power supply went red led . now nothing not even fan spin .

 

[vanniko63]

removed cmos battery tested it and i get reading of 1 ,on dc scale out of 2 v dc and tested on batt set 1.5 get 1 . i get 1 with nothing on meter . i belive and conviced this battery is dead . now is this simply all the problem or just one of many .

 

[vanniko63]

i put back corsair h2 cooler will it come back to life?

That is other method to test the MB too, when you change the hardware sometime you have to clear the CMOS let the pc to recognize new hardware.
To clear the CMOS, you will only mess up the BIOS setting like the boot order, etc.

 

[vanniko63]

i found a battery and i did get a reading on it , will try again , when i pressed cmos button on outside of board it shut down power supply , still no led,s or beep which concerns me ,will attempt tonight ,yes the cmos sets back to default , and yes boot order is gone , but i am bench testing ,at this point. to see if i get leds and sound on mobo before reinstalling . i dont feel good about it , and i am puzzled as to why .

 

[cin19]

You can use the PC without the CMOS battery, because it is used for keeping the info like boot order, time, what hardware the pc had, etc. If the PC CMOS battery is dead, you have to go into the BIOS reset the boot order, time, etc.
So if you try to clear the CMOS, even the battery failure will not cause the PC does not boot.

When you do clear the CMOS, you need unplug the power cord, then either remove the battery or use the button to clear the CMOS, after that connect the power, boot the PC. If you can't boot the pc, then you may try Bench it - Troubleshooting http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1753671/bench-troubleshooting.html
One more you may check the cup socket to see there is any bent pin or not, if you only removed the cooler, and also removed the cpu, but if you don't touch the cpu at all, you don't need to check, but it does not hurt to check it out.

If you use only one stick ram with cpu+ cooler+ using the onboard iGPU, and the pc doesn't boot, the problem may from either cpu or MB. If you have other compatible parts to test, you can easy to find out cpu or MB has or has not problem.

 

[vanniko63]

You can use the PC without the CMOS battery, because it is used for keeping the info like boot order, time, what hardware the pc had, etc. If the PC CMOS battery is dead, you have to go into the BIOS reset the boot order, time, etc.
So if you try to clear the CMOS, even the battery failure will not cause the PC does not boot.

When you do clear the CMOS, you need unplug the power cord, then either remove the battery or use the button to clear the CMOS, after that connect the power, boot the PC. If you can't boot the pc, then you may try Bench it - Troubleshooting http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1753671/bench-troubleshooting.html
One more you may check the cup socket to see there is any bent pin or not, if you only removed the cooler, and also removed the cpu, but if you don't touch the cpu at all, you don't need to check, but it does not hurt to check it out.

If you use only one stick ram with cpu+ cooler+ using the onboard iGPU, and the pc doesn't boot, the problem may from either cpu or MB. If you have other compatible parts to test, you can easy to find out cpu or MB has or has not problem.

 

[vanniko63]

hi want to thank you , first of all for your time , i am starting to recall after i after placing fan onto mobo only fan i recall small flash on top of mobo .but keep working . now that i finally got new power supply for it i am at this point , the mobo is out and i don't see any indication of damage or burn front back . perhaps i should remove heat sinks on top to check if there in deed, was a capacitor issue , this is the only thing i can recall , now i am thinking short or bad capacitor only capacitor would discharge , if i had a short from fan, install, it would be still there , i recently replaced fan with original stock fan which i picked up for 10 dollars e bay .which has no back brackets , just to eliminate the fan short theory ,, its been a while since i played with this board , i am starting to forget details like this . let me investigate what is under the heat sink , look for damaged from last months flash .

 

[cin19]

If you think the MB got shorting, may take out everything, and check the MB and capacitors carefully.

 

[vanniko63]

If you think the MB got shorting, may take out everything, and check the MB and capacitors carefully.

 

[vanniko63]

only explanation i don't know how , or what . but flash is not a good thing , there was no smoke or smell , and it kept working so this is why i did not give it much thought , but a flash is a flash and usually not good thing . .

 

[cin19]

So do you try the Bench it - Troubleshooting http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1753671/bench-troubl... if the pc does not boot, and the problem maybe from the MB or cpu. If you have to find out, go to local pc shop ask for help.

 

[vanniko63]

So do you try the Bench it - Troubleshooting http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1753671/bench-troubl... if the pc does not boot, and the problem maybe from the MB or cpu. If you have to find out, go to local pc shop ask for help.

 

[vanniko63]

not yet, will try to do tonight , still building new pc . which i should be getting new memory sticks , so i will put old on old rather asrock , have lots of chores to do , pc is my passion but responsibilities first so i can be able to enjoy

 

[vanniko63]

did take out could not see anything , i once again , did bench test with out memory sticks and results are worse . rather then cpu fan coming on and staying on . it just goes on with a quick shut off , less then a fraction of a second . now i can not even simulate initial issue . i recently got some memory sticks to add perhaps i can try again .with memory sticks in place i am loosing faith .