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Zen3 prices are so garbage vs Intel that people don't stop complaining about junk,relic 300series support to save a few $$$

Going by history, beta bios from AMD are complete trash. Maybe AMD would have better success by droping Zen3 prices.
 
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wifiburger said:
Zen3 prices are so garbage vs Intel that people don't stop complaining about junk,relic 300series support to save a few $$$

Going by history, beta bios from AMD are complete trash. Maybe AMD would have better success by droping Zen3 prices.
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Some people don't have a lot of money to spare, and in many places the prices of parts are very high compared to the average earning. Not everyone can afford to upgrade often.

Also, it also means that these motherboards have just got more value on the second-hand market, and future upgraders can enjoy even better CPUs. So what's not to like?
 
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About time. It's better than Intel, but that's a low bar to pass for socket support. AMD should've gotten a lot more flack for segmenting Ryzen support on AM4 than they did.
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they had to segment it, agesa code is big, older mainboards had 16MB bioses, for full CPU support you need 32MB bios
so there are currently two agesa versions maintained, agesa V1 (for CPUs up to zen2) and V2 (for CPUs from zen2 onward)
both are 16MB, with 32MB bios you can run both of them and can run it with any CPU u want, but with 16MB bios, you can fit in only one agesa version, if you switch to V2 agesa, then youll loose cpu support which predates zen2

mine asrock x370 gaming x has bios 6.12 with agesa combo-am4 pi v2 1.1.0.0 dated december 2020 which supports zen 3 (vermeer)
its not like those bioses with agesa V2 for zen3 doesnt exist, just ask asrock and theyll send you one
 
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TCA_ChinChin said:
About time. It's better than Intel, but that's a low bar to pass for socket support. AMD should've gotten a lot more flack for segmenting Ryzen support on AM4 than they did.
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It's so not better than Intel. It's exactly like Intel and more towards worst than Intel.

Intel you get 2 gen cpus per chipset and support is guaranteed / working bios with no back and forth support with bios quackery. You don't like it, don't buy into the platform. Complains from users are ignored here !

Official bios you only get 2 Zen cpus generation per socket. After it becomes beta bios which is worthless.

Long times before bios release / updates, removing prev supported cpus, features that are blocked on the beta vs official bios, weird glitches,security that are not fixed, etc
 
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Better be late than never!!

I do agree that AMD did poorly regarding CPU support. All along, CPU support has nothing to do with chipset. Today's chipsets are mianly just providing connectivity options like SATA, extra PCIE, USB etc....

All your CPU support, overclocking, PBO etc etc comes from the CPU and BIOS directly. Even your 20 usuable PCIE 4.0 lanes are from the CPU (nothing to do with chipset). I would say at least some of the x370/x470/B350/B450 boards are designed to conform with PCIE 4.0 standards but AMD do not allow manufacturers to enable it due to marketing reason. Doing so will greatly affect their x570/B550 sales.

AMD ditch x370/B350 after a year and introduce "new" x470/B450 that has nothing to offer over older chipsets. IF you are talking about extra PBO, better memory OC etc, they are from the CPU and BIOS and to an extent board design (trace length/path, power), but not chipset. Barely a year later, they ditch x470 by introducing x570 chipset that "supports" PCIE 4.0. B550 came later because x570 was too expensive for many pple.

We used to think that AMD was the underdog. They brough us affordable CPUs (Intel was the real devil). But no, AMD is just another devil. I am glad Intel is now competitve again so they are keeping AMD in check. I used to be a big big AMD supporter but now I only support my wallet. Screw these companies.
 
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kerberos_20 said:
they had to segment it, agesa code is big, older mainboards had 16MB bioses, for full CPU support you need 32MB bios
so there are currently two agesa versions maintained, agesa V1 (for CPUs up to zen2) and V2 (for CPUs from zen2 onward)
both are 16MB, with 32MB bios you can run both of them and can run it with any CPU u want, but with 16MB bios, you can fit in only one agesa version, if you switch to V2 agesa, then youll loose cpu support which predates zen2

mine asrock x370 gaming x has bios 6.12 with agesa combo-am4 pi v2 1.1.0.0 dated december 2020 which supports zen 3 (vermeer)
its not like those bioses with agesa V2 for zen3 doesnt exist, just ask asrock and theyll send you one
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How did you get them to send you a 6.12? I asked and they blew me off. and it's not on their web-site either.
 
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How did you get them to send you a 6.12? I asked and they blew me off. and it's not on their web-site either.
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6.00 had some bugs which i didnt really like...it was running fine with R5 1600X, but switching to 3800X with that bios was not really great...so i pestered them and they sent it :)
bios is asrock signed...as you cant install modded bios on asrock boards...some security checks are going there
 
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One question, I have MSI X370 gaming pro carbon motherboard, if I update the bios, can I place ryzen 5800x?
 
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