Asus P5N-E SLI RAM

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I'm getting my RAM replaced, but Crucial no longer makes DDR2 Ballistix, so I have 2 choices. I was wondering which would be better.

www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=ct25664aa800

or

www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=ct51264aa667‎

Thanks
 
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The board is picky about ram, but I know people have had good luck with crucial, I've used my Ballistix since '09. I have been running 7 x64 for awhile now. I'm just trying to decide if I would be better off with the 2 pieces of 4gb ddr2 pc2-5300 or the 4 pieces of ddr2 pc2-6400. I know that some people have problems when filling all 4 dimm slots and that people reccomend raising the ram and northbridge voltage if doing so.
 
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Pc2 5300 is 667mhz and 6400 is 800mhz. Some motherboards behave much slower with 800nhz if the standard is 667mhz and if the cpu is tied in with the ram.

What is your motherboard brand and version?
 
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The board in an Asus P5N-E SLI, the memory standard is 800MHz. the only reason to pick the 667MHz is because of the fact that some people have problems when running 4 DIMMs, but like I said hopefully raising the NB voltage will help that.
 
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Don't touch the Northbridge, it already runs hot, raising it higher would make it really hot, you'd need to ad a small heatsink and fan if not one already on it. You might be better to go ask (a new thread) about the raising of the Northbridge, personally, I wouldn't dare but I'm not into tweaking motherboard settings.
 
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I actually bought a heatsink fan, think its a thermaltake spirit II awhile back because the 650i NB runs hot. I have no problems tweaking things in the bios, the only reason I'm not now is because I'm having issuse with my PC. after I replace the ram I plan to individually check my video cards and probably my power supply as well, since I'm not certain it's up to the task of running my PC

FYI, My rig

Asus P5N-e SLI
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
1x 2GB crucial ballistix ddr 2 800mhz
2x GTX 260 core 216
2 Western Digital SATA hard drives
a super multi optical drive
and 5 case fans
 
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1x 2GB crucial ballistix ddr 2 800mhz, you need 2 of them (kit of 2) unless that single one is a single channel module.
5 x case fans - too many, too much. You only need as many as the number of fan connectors on the motherboard, usually 3.
Your rig is low end and is not likely to give off much heat, you only need a good sized case to allow elbow room, not cramped or crammed with hardware.
Don't bog down your system with too many fans and don't use Molex connectors.

Windows 7 x64 is not really the type of OS you should be running with this rig so expect only mid performance.
 
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I had a 2x 2GB kit, 1 died, now the other is failing. I am getting a warranty replacement. They offered twice as much of the Crucial branded RAM, no heat spreaders, so that's 4x 2GB or 2x 4GB, that with an E6600 and SLI'd GTX260s should have no problems with 7 x64. I was just wondering if people thought I would be better off with the 4x 2GB of DDR2 800MHz or the 2x 4GB of DDR2 667MHz. I decided to go with the 4x 2GB of 800MHz and if my board doesn't like it, I'll run 4GB like I have been and probably sell the other 2 sticks.
 
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It's probably not the ram that is at fault it could be an inadequate PSU, what make/model is the PSU?

1 x GTX 260 requires 2 x 6-pin connectors so 2 of them would need a PSU that can provide 4 x 6-pin PCIe connectors.
Minimum for 1 video card is 500 watt PSU, they don't say what for 2 of them but probably about 750 watt PSU.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-260/specifications

Your motherboard would be better with the 0000's Nvidia type as much as GT 9800, it's just not cut out for those more advanced graphic cards.

The motherboard is only PCIe 16 1.0, NVIDIA recommends a PCI-E 2.0 x16 motherboard for the best performance, the GTX 260 is PCIe 2.0

There are different versions of the GTX 260 even though all from the same manufacturer, distributors do occasional add data to the information table and may also tweak that card for a different performance level.- Palit, Nvidia, Sparkle, Gigabyte etc.. You'd need to confirm what distributor is your model.
 
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the PSU is an Antec EA650 and yeah I have to use an adapter to power 1 card. the master is an XFX black edition, i think. the 2nd card is a BFG Tech maxcore 5. I was actually thinking the PSU mihght not be up to , but also the amps on the 12v rail(s) can be more important than the watts, many PSUs don't have enough amps to power everything, and you generally have to look for the amperage because it's not as advertised as the watts. I was planning to use only 1 card, haven't been able to sell the other, I mainly have it in the PC for safekeeping as I dont have any anti static bags or anything for storage.
 
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Don't leave the other card in the PC, stick it in a shoe box. I got about 6 assorted video cards in a shoe box, they really don't need anti-static bags as long as you stand them upright (always better to have them, though).

You can't mix brands of video cards, they won't work or not work properly or cause other issues.
You should not be using molex adapters, better to get the correct PSU type with the correct cables.
Molex cables are only a temporary measure for emergency use only and are not to be used as a permanent solution.
 
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ok, it was my understanding that as long as they were the same model of card it was ok and that as long as the PSU had enough power to run them that it was ok to use an adapter. I mostly use my PC for the internet and school, with some call of duty.

thanks
 
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If the molex cable is attached to a cable line that also has a connector type for a different device then the v/a for that device would be different to the v/a of the video card causing a different flow of v/a either way, resulting in a pause, lag, or freeze of one or the other.

Distributors of the same manufacturer model video card insert their distributor name into the header text of the information table of the video card so that it can be seen in DxDiag or aome other identifying software. Nvidia gets disgruntled when a distributor tweaks the video card to their own specifications rather than just Nvidia's requirements.

As to how Windows OS feels about the distributor name as compared to the manufacturrer is still a matter of conjecture but if the distributor uses their own name in the manfacturer type header information table then Windows will assume its a different manufacturer.You would also need todownload update drivers for each of the video cards instead of just one set from Nvidia therefore, also causing an issue of a sort.

XFX GTX 260 Black Edition, also a 260/216 version -

Specifications -
Core Mhz -576
Shader Mhz - 1242
Mem Hz -999
Memory - 896MB
Memory Bus - 448-bit
Stream - 192
(Verstion GT 260/216 - Stream 216)
Reference -
http://techgage.com/article/xfx_geforce_gtx_260_black_edition/

BFG Tech GeForce GTX 260 OCX Maxcore
bfg-tech-geforce-9x.jpg

Specifcations:
Core Clock: 655MHz
Shader Clock: 1,404MHz
Memory Clock: 2,250MHz
Memory: 896MB GDDR3
Warranty: Ten years (parts and labour)
Reference -
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2008/09/25/bfg-tech-geforce-gtx-260-ocx-maxcore/2

The drivers for the XFX model are for all the 200 series as it makes it seem to appear, only the GT 210 is actually shown
http://products.xfxforce.com/en-us/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_GeForce_210/GM-210M-ZNF2XFX site

As for drivers for the BFG version, only Nvidia knows that one.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_20021119_6780.html
 
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