[SOLVED] Asus P8H77-M Pro Motherboard, will it handle it?

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Hello! I'll post here my PC specifications:

System:Windows 10(64 bit )

CPU:Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz

Memory:12288 MB DDR3 SDRAM 1596

Disk: ADATA SX900 ATA Device 64 GB SDD + Toshiba DT01ACA200 ATA Device 2000 GB HDD + SAMSUNG HD502HI ATA Device 500 GB HDD

Display adapter:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780(3.00 GB)

Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M Pro

Monitor: Samsung c24f390 24" LED Curved Monitor

Power Supply: CP 750W combat power


I would like to buy some new and faster RAM (8GBx2 2400MHz) My question is, will my Motherboard handle a 2400MHz reading speed RAM? ( https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P8H77M_PRO/specifications/ )
I'm asking it because someone said to me that it will not, so, i just want to make sure i won't waste my money :)
I'm also thinking into buying a Asus P8Z77-M motherboard, will it worth?
Any other improving suggestion to my system's specs will be appreciated!
Thanks to all!
 
It is unlikely you would notice any appreciable different beyond 1600mhz on that platform. I'd stick to DDR3 1600mhz 2 x8GB memory kit and avoid any headaches or wasting money on a higher speed kit that you'll likely end up having to run at 1600mhz anyhow. It CAN support speeds faster than 1600mhz, but it will require an advanced configuration and plenty of testing, if you are even able to get it to POST at that speed, in order to assure stability.

The vast majority of reviews on Ivy bridge platforms show no benefit for gaming with memory faster than 1600mhz anyhow. The additional fact that you have a locked CPU, makes almost an impossibility rather than an improbability. To achieve 2400mhz on that platform, it's almost a certainty that you'd need a CPU model that could be overclocked in order to get the memory controller to play ball.
 
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It is unlikely you would notice any appreciable different beyond 1600mhz on that platform. I'd stick to DDR3 1600mhz 2 x8GB memory kit and avoid any headaches or wasting money on a higher speed kit that you'll likely end up having to run at 1600mhz anyhow. It CAN support speeds faster than 1600mhz, but it will require an advanced configuration and plenty of testing, if you are even able to get it to POST at that speed, in order to assure stability.

The vast majority of reviews on Ivy bridge platforms show no benefit for gaming with memory faster than 1600mhz anyhow. The additional fact that you have a locked CPU, makes almost an impossibility rather than an improbability. To achieve 2400mhz on that platform, it's almost a certainty that you'd need a CPU model that could be overclocked in order to get the memory controller to play ball.

Ok, i got it, i should not buy a 2400MHz RAM stick. So what do you suggest to change to my PC? 🤔 Should i buy a new CPU? (mine is pretty old, 2013)
I'm also thinking into buying this power supply -> https://www.amazon.co.uk/QUIET-Syst...+500+W+supply&qid=1567257566&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Will it be powerful enough for my System's specs? :ange:
 
To start with, that GTX 780 calls for a minimum of a 575w power supply.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Secondly, that particular BeQuiet power supply model is not particularly good. It is just about in between mediocre and poor quality, certainly not as good as many other units in it's price range. It is also a fairly old design.

I'd recommend this, way before that unit. A few bucks more, but well worth the extra. This is far superior to that particular BeQuiet model. Also, your current PSU is pretty bad. Very low quality.

PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£61.53 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £61.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 18:28 BST+0100




Also, there is no CPU you can upgrade to on your current platform. If you want to upgrade to something better, you would need to be prepared to buy not only a new CPU, but a different motherboard and memory as well.

With the total amount of memory you currently have installed, it is probable that you are not getting dual channel operation out of it on that older platform. I'd run CPU-Z and look at the memory tab to see if it is running in single or dual channel. If it is running in single channel, then it might be advisable to purchase a 2 x8GB 1600mhz memory kit so that it does run in dual channel, which doubles your effective bandwidth. Personally, I don't think it's worth the cost to do that and the money would be better spent going towards a complete platform upgrade instead.

Something along these lines would give you much better performance than anything you could do with your current platform, if you wanted to do so.



PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£137.49 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£109.99 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£83.75 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £331.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 18:55 BST+0100
 
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To start with, that GTX 780 calls for a minimum of a 575w power supply.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Secondly, that particular BeQuiet power supply model is not particularly good. It is just about in between mediocre and poor quality, certainly not as good as many other units in it's price range. It is also a fairly old design.

I'd recommend this, way before that unit. A few bucks more, but well worth the extra. This is far superior to that particular BeQuiet model. Also, your current PSU is pretty bad. Very low quality.

PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£61.53 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £61.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 18:28 BST+0100




Also, there is no CPU you can upgrade to on your current platform. If you want to upgrade to something better, you would need to be prepared to buy not only a new CPU, but a different motherboard and memory as well.

With the total amount of memory you currently have installed, it is probable that you are not getting dual channel operation out of it on that older platform. I'd run CPU-Z and look at the memory tab to see if it is running in single or dual channel. If it is running in single channel, then it might be advisable to purchase a 2 x8GB 1600mhz memory kit so that it does run in dual channel, which doubles your effective bandwidth. Personally, I don't think it's worth the cost to do that and the money would be better spent going towards a complete platform upgrade instead.

Something along these lines would give you much better performance than anything you could do with your current platform, if you wanted to do so.



PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£137.49 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£109.99 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£83.75 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £331.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 18:55 BST+0100

Wow, that's a lot of information, thanks!
I already checked CPU-Z and, yea, the RAMs are running in dual channel.
So let's suppose i can buy right now, all the things you suggested to me, will a 650W PSU be able to handle everything? :)
 
Yes, undoubtedly. And if you decide to upgrade to a newer graphics card at some point, your power consumption will likely go DOWN, rather than up, even with a more powerful card since they are generally more efficient these days and even a 2080 TI only comes with a recommendation for a good quality 600w unit. 650w is pretty much the sweet spot for power supplies these days UNLESS you plan to overclock the CPU or graphics card to something between a moderate and significant amount. A mild overclock of either component won't shake things up much, but if you plan to push the limit at all with overclocking then a 750w unit would be a good idea.

And in reality, it would be best to come up with a budget IF and WHEN you decide you might want to pull a full platform upgrade, because depending on how much you are actually willing to spend, you might be able to do significantly better than what I outlined there with a fairly modest increase to the budget. That is basically my "minimum" upgrade that gets you on the current generation and gives you a halfway decent bump in performance. That CPU has four cores and four hyperthreads, just like your current CPU, but a modest increase in single core performance. Two more cores with two more hyperthreads would offer an even bigger bump in multithreaded performance and while not every game out there benefits from that, many do these days, PLUS, if you have any desire to record, stream or do any other moderate to heavy multitasking WHILE you game, the extra threaded performance is a definite nice to have.
 
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Thanks for the tip about the 650W unit PSU, and no, i don't plan to overclock anything yet 👍
My budget is around 300€, can these two get along ? 😀

- https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-B450M-...4+Motherboard&qid=1567379220&s=gateway&sr=8-3

- https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-...00g+processor&qid=1567379807&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Maybe not, since there's written that the motherboard only support gen 1/2 CPUs, but i need to have a Micro ATX sized motherboard, otherwise it could not fit in to my case 🤔
Speaking about GPU, i was opting for a GTX 1660, eventually...
 
That board DOES have BIOS flashback, so the BIOS can be updated to a version that supports that CPU, WITHOUT a CPU even being installed, however, in my opinion based on what I've seen HERE on this forum over the last year or two, the Mortar and Tomahawk boards seem to have a somewhat higher failure rate, or develop issues of one kind of another, more than a lot of other boards. Specifications wise, they work. And both can be updated to newer BIOS, IF they don't already have a newer BIOS (Which they might, or might not), to support the Zen2 Ryzen processors, but I'm being honest when I say that the money you save isn't worth it if you are unlucky enough to get a board with a problem and those boards seem to have some quality control issues.

This is probably even more of a problem for you than it would be for most members, because if you are in a region that uses Euros, then an RMA probably isn't going to be nearly as painless for you as it might be for somebody in the US or UK, if you have to use the warranty. There might not even BE a warranty center near you and you might have to foot the bill for shipping to a country that does have one.

What country are you actually in so I can see what is specifically available to you at the most reasonable price?
 
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€171.89 @ Alternate Italia)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€83.24 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€49.99 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €305.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-03 19:20 CEST+0200
Wow, that's awesome! Thank you so much!
One last question please, i'm planning to buy a GTX 1660 in the near future, would it be ok with the new configuration that you suggested to me? :)