ASUS P8Z77-v Premium TPM - where do I get it?

[markgrif]

There is a connector for a TPM (Trusted Platorm Module) on the P8Z77-V Premium board. What brand and model number will fit this connector?

Will it support TPM 2.0 or just 12?

I need it now!

 

[jaquith]

The Intel TPM requires Xeon CPU's <or> TXT CPU (link), so unless you have Xeon E3-1230 or Xeon E3-1230 V2 or TXT CPU it's a mute point, the Intel Trusted Platform Module AXXTPME3 - http://ark.intel.com/products/55170/Trusted-Platform-Module-AXXTPME3

So otherwise I don't know, I'd contact ASUS. TPM is fringe at best on consumer MOBO's.

/edit - corrected and added TXT CPU link above.

 

[markgrif]

Thanks for the reply. I haven't ordered the processor yt, so I could change to a Xeon. I was going to get the i7 3770K. Do you know the differences between these two? I do notice there are seveal models of the Xeon.

Thanks again

 

[ko888]

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Accessory-FW3-19-Module-BitLocker/dp/B0085E4WQQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_3

 

[jaquith]

There's only (2) two supported Xeon's listed for the ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM which I already listed above (E3's)- http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77V_PREMIUM/#CPUS

Observation - the Xeon requires BIOS version 1401 (7/30/2012) or later which with most MOBO's would be an issue BUT the ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM includes USB BIOS Flashback so you can update the BIOS using a USB Flash Drive without the need for a donor CPU, Repair Shop or RMA.

Xeon E3-1230V2 vs i7-3770K - Xeon cannot be overclocked, but allows for ECC (Error-Correcting Code) memory, but I see no listed support of ECC memory and instead the following so you'll need to contact ASUS if it's possible to run ECC RAM instead of non-ECC; Specs:
4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2800(O.C.)/2600(O.C.)/2400(O.C.)/2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/2000(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1800(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)
* Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs.

Xeon E3-1230V2 (3.3/3.7GHz 4 cores/8 threads) - http://ark.intel.com/products/65732/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230V2-(8M-Cache-3_30-GHz)

i7-3770K (3.5/3.9GHz 4 cores/8 threads) - http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-(8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz)

The i7-3770K can overclock and cannot use ECC RAM only non-ECC which is only important for mission critical jobs, the i7-3770K is more expensive, requires an after market cooling solution if overclocked and is a faster CPU than the E3-1230V2.

Essentially, for business usage the Xeon and for home and gaming the consumer Ivy Bridge e.g. i7-3770K.

Review Xeon E3-1230V2 - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xeon-e3-benchmark-review,3258.html
Review i7-3770K - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181.html

Benchmarks:

 

[markgrif]

Boy! When you answer a question you answer a question!

I have one more:

Since the P8Z77-V PREMIUM has a socket for a TPM then you would assume it would support a processor that supports one. If the board only runs non ECC and all chips that support TPM need ECC - then, what? Having the socket makes no sense.

Are you certain that the i7 3770K doesn't support a TPM?

 

[ko888]

Many laptop computers have TPM built-in and they don't use server CPUs or ECC RAM.

TPM depends on BIOS and OS in combination with the TPM chip.

 

[jaquith]

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Accessory-FW3-19-Module-BitLocker/dp/B0085E4WQQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_3

I don't know if it's compatible? ^Do you?

TXT only works on a limited number of Intel CPUs (mostly Xeon and mobile processors); here's a list - http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?TXT=true

 

[jaquith]

Since the P8Z77-V PREMIUM has a socket for a TPM then you would assume it would support a processor that supports one.

As I said the E3's support both (TPM & TXT) but otherwise help yourself and compare the ASUS supported CPU (link) and Intel® Trusted Execution Technology (link) My only exposure with TPM (security chips) is with TXT supported CPU's.

If the board only runs non ECC and all chips that support TPM need ECC - then, what? Having the socket makes no sense.

Neither TPM or TXT to my knowledge has any ECC dependencies. The Xeon does NOT require ECC RAM in order to function.

Are you certain that the i7 3770K doesn't support a TPM?

I am certain that CPU didn't support TXT when I posted (link) However, if TPM hardware (security chips) without TXT can work than nope I'm not 100% certain. Windows offers a 'software' version of TPM with no hardware specific requirements e.g. BitLocker™ typically with the Ultimate or Enterprise.

i7-3770K: Intel® Trusted Execution Technology (TXT) = No

Your question is about TPM hardware (security chips).

 

[markgrif]

Thanks to both of you. With your help I have discovered that the i7 3770 will support everything I need and the i7 3770K will not. The P8Z77-V Premium has all the support needed too.

Now if I can only find the TPM plug-in for the 24-2 pin config on the P8Z77-V Premium!

Anybody know where, what?

 

[ko888]

Thanks to both of you. With your help I have discovered that the i7 3770 will support everything I need and the i7 3770K will not. The P8Z77-V Premium has all the support needed too.

Now if I can only find the TPM plug-in for the 24-2 pin config on the P8Z77-V Premium!

Anybody know where, what?

I thought that ASUS used the same 20-1 pin TPM connector on all of there current motherboards that have a TPM connector.

I've seen the TPM card, that I linked to, used and working on an ASUS P9X79 motherboard.

 

[markgrif]

FOUND IT!

I got the super secret ASUS phone number (no - I won't give it out). They were terrific. They didn't have one but they found it for me at AMAZON (number B0085E4WQQ). There were three left but I bought one.

Remember that your chip has to support it. Thanks to Jaquith for his link (see above)

 

[jaquith]

Good to know. Short of calling them I wasn't going to guess.

 

[markgrif]

ko888 was right about the TPM being the same for all boards too.

 

[jaquith]

Q - Why do you feel you need TPM? Just curious and no I'm not a Cat.

 

[markgrif]

I am developer and I need all the security I can get. I use Bitlocker. You can use that without a TPM but it is much safer and more convenient with it. It also supports fingerprint readers very securely. With Windows 8 you get many extra security benefits. One is "secure boot" which I think everybody should have.

 

[jaquith]

Well I'm SQL Developer and on our servers with TPM and TXT support isn't so generic. The TPM modules vary from Intel AXXTPME3/AXXTPME5 and some use Infineon, etc. @ko888 was lucky. Unfortunately, ASUS doesn't openly document.

TXT Example - http://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/trusted-execution-technology-server-platforms-matrix.pdf

Anyway, good luck and I'm happy it worked out.

 

[genz]

I will add (six months later because this is still high up on pagerank/google for TPM socket searches) that Secure Boot is a terrible DRM infested lock in idea and that all computers having it would doom us to a situation where PC would have vendor lock in in a Mac like way, requiring special motherboards and BIOS and killing off software like Linux.