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Asus Rolls Out ROG Strix RX Vega Cards, With Scant Details

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jimmysmitty

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Obviously they have it backwards.

Still though 750W for that GPU? Even the 1080 Ti only requires 600W minimum. This makes me think that the 14nm they are using is leaking a ton of power unless Asus was able to pull off an ungodly overclock.
 

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Jimmysmitty, amd is not nvidia. Please dont assume amd can pull off what nvidia can with their products.
 

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Sounds like AMD. They rushed it out the door to meet holiday season and now they've made all their partners be guinea pigs by forcing them to help with months of troubleshooting. AMD better be giving it's AIB partners a good deal on GPU dies with all of the work they've had to do to make VEGA overclock stable.
 
Hey guys, it's known (Raja said this) that RX-480 cards (and everything that followed) is based on a MOBILE design that was meant to optimize for probably about 1000MHz. AMD needed something to compete with NVidia but didn't have the resources to properly create an optimized desktop GPU for this purpose... we'd hoped by RX-VEGA they could have sorted out this a bit better but nope... we should see a REFRESH for both VEGA and RYZEN in 2018 though that optimized for both power draw and makes minor architectural changes...

RX-VEGA64 in particular will look far better with a refresh since it will not only perform better but a few more games should come out by then that start to showcase the potential of its architecture. AMD still has some growing pains in its hardware and software though so I hope they can stick with it as competition is a good thing.
 
YOANDY,
RX-VEGA is an excellent architecture with two main drawbacks. One is the power efficiency, and the second is the lack of software that will utilize the card well. (and the pricing too)... if we fast forward a year, RX-VEGA will do better relative to the current NVidia competition in some games...

I'm not necessarily recommending RX-VEGA but people should at least educate themselves a bit better. For example, if an Asus Strix RX-VEGA56 card cost the same as an Asus Strix GTX1070 I'd probably go with the VEGA56 card, but if it was a GTX1080 I'd need to think more carefully about it...

Problem is though that due to driver and game support issues, the RX-VEGA56 card is 75% the performance of a GTX1080 in some games and beats the GTX1080 slightly in others so it's all over the place whereas the GTX1080 is much more consistent... then there's the question of stability and smoothness which is hard to answer...

Anyway, AMD has a great architecture happening and since the core GCN architecture approach is in the XBOX ONE and PS4 game consoles we can expect code to optimize toward that more as time goes on (and NVidia's next GPU's to more closely approximate GCN as well primarily due to the console influence).
 

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So we need to educate ourselves and thats correct, thats why I would choose the GTX 1070 Ti that costs $449 instead of the RX Vega 56 that costs $649, the GTX 1070 Ti uses 180W instead of 210W and the GTX 1070 Ti as of today is the fastest and most efficient card and saves you $200.
 
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