Asus TUF B350m Plus Gaming vs MSI B350m Mortar vs Asrock B350m Pro 4

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Hello, I search for the answer:

which of the following motherboard will allow me to overclock 8 cores Ryzen to ~4 ghz (or generally over 3.8hghz) , run memory @ 3200mhz with some longevity.

Asus TUF B350m Plus Gaming
pros
- TUF so better quality(?)
- Asus - good bios support etc

cons
- 4+2 phases vs MSI 4+3
- no SOC radiator
- price compared to below

MSI B350m Mortar
pros
- 4 + 3 phases
- price
- best looking

cons
- heard about VRM overheating (anyone could confirm?)
- no SOC radiator

Asrock B350m Pro 4
pros
- radiators over VRM SOC
- price

cons
- 3 + 3 phases
- heard about voltage fluctuation
- missing p-state overclocking (does any of them covers idle voltage drop?)

to be used by my wife so only 8 cores needed which will be used with corsair carbide air 240 (so forced to use matx format)

 
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To be clear: none of these boards, nor any other 3 or 4 phase VRM board, will allow for TROUBLE FREE overclocking an 8 core Ryzen to ~4 Ghz. You may, depending on how good your silicon is, get it to 4G but it will not hold steady under load. I own the Mortar: it will get my 1700 to 3.95 gig but the voltage needed is insane and under load the VRM heats up like mad so i just shut it down to save...well...everything. Actually, I think it will throttle at something like 115C or so but I don't have the heart.

The mortar is rock steady...
Uh decided to stick to e5-2697v3 with three instances - for my wife one, second for me, for local db third . Looks like 14c @ full turbo 3.6ghz +32 gb ram are more than enough for our needs.
vapour thx for the answer !
 


To be clear: none of these boards, nor any other 3 or 4 phase VRM board, will allow for TROUBLE FREE overclocking an 8 core Ryzen to ~4 Ghz. You may, depending on how good your silicon is, get it to 4G but it will not hold steady under load. I own the Mortar: it will get my 1700 to 3.95 gig but the voltage needed is insane and under load the VRM heats up like mad so i just shut it down to save...well...everything. Actually, I think it will throttle at something like 115C or so but I don't have the heart.

The mortar is rock steady at 3.85G with nice steady voltages (1.31 during prime 95) but I still have to use a fan on the VRM section to keep it cool (under 80C). It's really nice there are 4 fan headers as one is used for the VRM fan so it's off when not encoding.

Also: the Mortar is 4+2 phase but the SoC has doubled hi and lo side FET's. Also important to know: the SoC load is really quite insignificant on a Ryzen chip; it will probably matter much for APU's with integrated graphics chips.

3200 is achievable with most boards if you've the latest AGESA 1.0.0.6b BIOS. But you have to have the right kit to make it easy: two DIMM's only, and Samsung B-die. Others take some work and patience.
 
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